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Google Play Ranking !!

Discussion in 'Mobile Marketing' started by rachid2012, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. rachid2012

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    New published apps to google play they don't rank for all most targeted keywords in title and discription
    this happen 20 days ago and still going for me and other partners working in android apps ,
    the new apps doesn't index att all
    it seems that google has done some algho change but without any annontiotion
     
  2. amit-ben

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    yes we all noticed the same remmarque, but the question is it an update or just a problem in the algorithm!!
     
  3. AleeGS

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    I have the same problem.
     
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    It's appear but on very long tail. Not even app name or package name.
    I tested today and it's appear on "Developer name + first word from app name", weird

    I belive it's the new sandbox mode in Google Play, my 30+ days apps starting ranking normaly
     
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  5. vinku

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    Update, because people not understand me.
    Google Play is still one of the best source of free money, but times when you could upload "spiderman wallpaper" and earn awesome money are ended.
    Now you need to look for more special niches, forgot about niches, when you have 1000 competitors on start. My friend made stickers app but for special event in his region and got 100k installs in single week and 70k install in event day.
    So it's up to you, you can't publish some generic stuff to Google Play like "task killer" and have installs. Because there will be 10k other task killers. Still the best performing niche for noobs are guide apps, what I see on appbrain, new popular guides for games, have easy 100k installs in 7 days. Of course, it's not long term niche because Google will ban it soon or later but it's easy to make you fast $5k-$10k
     
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  6. rachid2012

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    yes you will not earn money with "spiderman wallpaper" you have to find new niches that are not saturated or look for "Geo niches" i think it's the best strategy now days , same niches are knowen only in brazil other in mexic ..
    after many talks i think google now rank apps in factor of last usser experince, for exemple google algho will analyse your last 1k install based on thier behavior (bounce rate/review/uninstall) will give a score and so one
    the problem now New published apps doesn't Index and takes a long time to do
     
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    installed app matters mate if keyword and discription is fine but google play watch how many installs u has to rank it
     
  8. vinku

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    Yes, this what I observed too... the most important is behavior.
    Installs from keyapp - zero behavior, fake, shadowban and ban
    Installs from adwords, even 20 installs rank app for good positions, wtf? :)
     
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  9. rachid2012

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    google want our money it's clear (they want part of money fb are taking)
    you must read this new article

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...m-users-at-risk-as-china-manipulates-top-vpns

    those Chinese android farms are killing it with fake reviews also with backlinks
     
  10. rachid2012

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    yes but how you will get visibility in order to get those first installs
    before, always new apps get ranked well in first days to have same data for robots than he will dicide the app ranking
    but now you have to buy those installs
     
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    Still it's increasing the chance for people. It's cutting 100k devs from India from Google Play xD
    if you buy 5k-10k installs fast, what is $2k-$10k, then your apps explode ;)

    of course you still need ASO, tricks, some boosting shit in apps, blackhat monetization but with investment, you explode

    witout investment it's still possible but it's luck/spam game
     
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    btw, still specialized niche, geo niche works without installs ;)
     
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    $2k-$10k...gets you only 5k-10k installs is that what you mean via Adwords?
     
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    Yes, but these 5k-10k real installs from TIER 1, makes that everyone generate 10-20 longer sessions in app.
    Then google rank your app and you get fast 100k-500k from organic ;)
     
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    That's too costly for tier 1 traffic considering it's from Adwords, cant we optimize the cpc for cheaper installs inside adwords?
     
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    Yes you can, 0.10$ for Tier 1 is possible
    but you need to get it FAST, not in weeks but in 5-10 days

    for fast jump better should be facebook with 0,20-0,30$ / install
     
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    Why fast and why not after a month's time, we want it to look natural right? or are you referring to BH apps churn and burn?
     
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    After month app is burned ;) google calculating rankings from first 30 days
     
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    Have you tried driving some high quality installs from Google/Facebook ads to get the first ranks appeared?
    The cheap incent installs wont be so helpful in that case

    The great option is also getting your app ranked Top1 for your targeted keywords in different countries
     
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    Said mopeak representative :D lol