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Google Penguin Recovery Plan

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ninya, Oct 18, 2014.

  1. Ninya

    Ninya Regular Member

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    Sup guys,


    Like a lot of you. I've been hit by the latest update. I've made this thread to document what I'm going to do to recover, so I can use something to come back to and hopefully motivate a lot of you as well.

    Firstly what you need to do is accept the fact that you've been hit. There won't be fluctuations throughout the week that might bring your site to normal. It's been hit. It's gone and you won't be able to get it back anytime soon unless you take drastic measures to achieve this. Sitting around moping around that you've been hit isn't going to do anything either, neither is refreshing your ranks every few hours. What you need to do is take the next course of action which is to rebuild. I'm sure I haven't lost as much as a lot of people but I have lost in the $X,XXX range per month.

    My recovery strategy:


    1. 301 recovery method

    The first thing I'm going to do is download backups of my most important money sites that have been hit in cPanel and I'm going to purchase new domains for these.

    There has been speculation that people have been hit across all their websites that are linked together on Webmaster Tools or have the same Whois (Domains all on GoDaddy account) so I'm going to register these domains on a different registrar. I'm going to go with namecheap.

    I'm going to use different whois details (My brothers name) and try to make my address with a different variation.

    Next, I'm going to completely cut out using Google Analytics and Google Webmaster Tools. I'm going to use a different Analytics tool (Clicky)

    I'm going to upload the backup on a different host than the one I've used that got hit and then upload the entire backup. Straight away I'm going to install the Wordpress Maintenance plugin so that I work on the site in offline mode. I know a lot of you don't want to go through content again and neither do I. I'm planning to just keep everything as it is. Think about it, it's an algorithm update, not a manual update. We can think Google high and mighty but to be honest they wouldn't have a clue that we've done this. Their algorithm metrics wouldn't be able to determine what we've just done above. Don't go through the trouble of buying new content. It's really not needed, I believe people just do it for their peace of mind.

    Change your URL's where ever you may have to on this new Wordpress setup etc. Get the website ready for the live public.

    Now we're going to remove the content and the entire website from your domain that got hit and setup a 301 redirect to the newly setup website. Here's the 301 code I'm going to use:

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     Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com/
    
    
    Just change if you want to use www. or not.

    Put this in the .htaccess of your root folder (usually public_html) in the affected domain.

    Check that it's redirecting to your new domain by visiting the website. Also try different paths like domain.com/product-review/ to make sure all pages are redirecting properly.

    Setup the new domain in your rank tracker. Give it about 2 weeks or less and things should start coming back.

    If this is a Penguin refresh then you should be able to go with making more money for quite a while to come. This is great on algorithmic penalties, not so great on manual penalties. You should last for a while.

    However, if Penguin has now been completely rolled into the Google search algorithm, this method is likely to only last 3-4 weeks, or not work at all. Either way I'll report what happens with my sites. My guess is that it's just a refresh, but if things go well in Google's eyes, they'll likely roll it into the search algorithm sometime before or after Christmas.

    2. Build completely new and improved websites of your most profitable niche's that you think you can rank in again

    Pretty much self explanatory, while reaping the money benefits from the first step, you should start working on re-building your most profitable niches into an authority website again with new methods.

    I would say, get the websites up, the content up, blog posts up etc and start with building some basic social media links, profiles and citation links. Don't do anything too heavy duty. Do a simple press release and leave it at that.

    By this time, let the links soak in for about 2-3 months and we should know what we're dealing with by then with Google and we'll know what the best procedures will be for link building by then. This way you'll be set to start ranking again and you'll have a head start on which methods to use.

    Things to note:

    - Stop using Google Analytics / Webmaster Tools etc for your websites. It's just not worth it anymore taking the risk.
    - Start using Clicky or another analytics program
    - Stop using @gmail.com accounts for your SEO related efforts (Everyone should already be doing this)
    - Give it time on the new sites that you create before heavy link building like PBN's. Let's see what we're dealing with first. Don't listen to what anyone says because no one will know.

    Costs:

    To do the part 1 of this recovery method, depending on how many sites you have you only need to pay for the domain and hosting. Not too much you need to spend to try get your money back right?

    To do part 2, not too bad either, just need extra money on the content. Depending on how many sites you want to salvage (I want to salvage 4) you shouldn't need to spend a lot to try this. I'll probably only end up spending $1,000 on performing the above two things on the 4 sites.

    Conclusion:

    I'm a bit busy now planning for a wedding (Yep I got caught at the best time :p) , but I'll build more on this as I start working on recovering my sites on the coming week. Anyone feel free to add to this or correct me on any assumptions I've made.

    Also....

    We're in this industry guys, It's as illusive as the stock market. If you're going to get upset when something like this happens then you're in the wrong game. We need to just pick up that first brick again and rebuild the wall.

    For those of you that have had enough. Start getting into PPC. If you want to know a great place to start hit me up a private message. I just never found it as interesting as SEO but the resources I've got are amazing. I'll be happy to help out.
     
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  2. fc-dh

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    LOL the update is just a view hours old, you really think you have recovery plan, nobody knows what the new update holds or what does or does not rank, imho you are jumping the gun... give it a view days to see how the rankings hold before you turn everything upside down
     
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  3. Ninya

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    I don't think you read my post. I clearly said I don't have a recovery plan and that no one should believe anyone that thinks that they do.

    Nice of you to jump the gun though.
     
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    francis1017 Supreme Member

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    Well it's better to have a recover plan than waiting without doing anything :)
     
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    That is why you called a recovery plan, oke my bad...
     
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    but what if the OP is wrong? then would have wasted all that time, and removing websites for nothing. Probably best to wait a bit.
     
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    kozola Newbie

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    I think best is to wait...

    worst sites have good position in google and its not for google, i think wi will back our positions :)
     
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  8. Ninya

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    It happened last year guys, the plan is the same. The only thing that's different is if it's actually integrated in the algorithm. I did the same thing last year, and the websites survived til now.

    It's up to you guys if you want to stay on the sidelines, or get back into it. You can just follow #2 if you're not interested in 301'ing your domains.

    I hate to break it to you - But they're gone.
     
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    Can i see some of your data that will backup your claim? cus you can only "break it" to us if you have some real data that 301 don't work anymore.
     
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    Differences of opinion on what to do next when such an update takes place, but the good thing is, its all healthy. Updates have always been coming and things settling with people moving on with life.
     
  11. Ninya

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    I still highly doubt you even read my thread. I said 301's do work. Not that they don't.
     
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    "Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com/" - Doesn't this just redirect all pages/links to the home page? Wouldn't you want to do a page to page redirect?

    I thought you would want to do something like:
    Options +FollowSymLinks
    RewriteEngine on
    RewriteRule (.*) http://www.newdomain.com/$1 [R=301,L]
     
  13. GalaxyRank

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    Just a question , a man said me i search my money site url in google like moneysite.com , if my site url is in first rank my site is not penalized , it is true ?
     
  14. Ninya

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    They work the same mate, it will still go to the respective URL.

    Also an update to those that were skeptical. 301's still work. My "hit" websites are now ranking again. I'd say about 85-90% of link juice has came back in. Some #1's have been restored. And as others are saying, there's no reason for this to stop working until the next penguin refresh. Saying that it would just "pass" the penalty in 4-6 weeks as most say is the same thing as saying that Penguin refreshes every 4-6 weeks. With a manual penalty this seems to be the case though that it would pass through in 4-6 weeks but not an algorithmic one.
     
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  15. Ninya

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    Well if you're still ranking then I doubt you've been hit. Better check all your keywords and all your pages man. :)
     
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    I know many people are concerned about Google busting them because they are using products such as Google Analytics on their sites and Google Webmaster Tools, but these aren't the only way Google can gain insight into your web sites. Are you using themes that include Google Web Fonts? Do you have social media buttons on your site which include Google+? Even if you are placing ad units on your site from some other third party company, if they are delivering the ads via DoubleClick, Google owns that too. It seems like you would really be limiting yourself if you were to completely try and weed them out.
     
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    You are focusing on the wrong things. Penguin doesn't look at Whois information, it looks at backlinks pointed to a website. I really am not sure where this whole Whois philosophy came about but it's wrong.

    Switching hosts, switching ownership details, starting over is pointless.

    Redirecting a domain via a 301 redirect will pass along the penalty as well. Go ask around how people held up with their 301's with the last update? You'll see a common tread that all of them plummeted hard.

    You are gonna commit all of this time and effort for absolutely nothing. You'd be better of removing the links that penalized your websites than starting over.
     
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    Setup up 301 on a domain hit with Penguin 3.0. Let's see how it goes.

    Thanks!
     
  19. Ninya

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    I've already done that man.

    This forum really cracks me up. I'm only here to tell people how to get their income back. If these guys on this thread just want to flame every little thing then they can feel free to do so. To me they just seem like bored people.

    301's work. People that say the penalty just "passes through" are people that have read the same threads again over and over and have never put the test in action for themselves.

    I've never seen a larger group of puppets in my life. I will continue to make money through my 301's at the cost of 1 hour per domain to setup and $10 per domain overhead and bank for weeks and weeks. I'M HARDLY "WASTING" TIME PEOPLE. I'm done with this by the time you're waking up from your 8 hour sleep. If you really think 4 hours and $40 for 4 domains is "wasting" time then I'd really like to see what you're doing with your time that's so precious. Anyway, if you have something to contribute to the thread that will aid people in recovering what's been hit and making money again then please feel free to post. Otherwise if you're just going to puppet what every other thread is saying without actually posting any real data in here then you can just close the thread.

    Oh and here's one of my latest recovered domains:


    recovery.jpg

    The same thing happened last year when Penguin came out and the same methods worked. I maintained my ranks until the next Penguin refresh and so can you. Don't listen to the puppets. :)
     
  20. Ninya

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    Yep, could be the case. Nothing is for certain man. But it's a small thing to change for a peace of mind. Anyway the people that do change it say it's worth it and the people that don't say it's not. So it's a very biased topic in my opinion. For you what might be pointless, might be everything to someone else. Just shows how bias this forum is really.

    The people in those threads, if you haven't noticed are mainly retard puppets that are increasing their post count by following what everyone previously said. None of them substantiated any of their claims with any real data. The people that know it works will just do it (Including myself). It's usually the people holding onto a smidgen of hope with their website that it's rankings will restore that are following the crowd as well. Not their fault either, it's usually because they think 301's are hard. But really, they're not. And moving your website / cloning it elsewhere is really easy. It doesn't take longer than an hour.

    And like I said in my previous post, this "time" that you're referring to me losing is a mere 4 hours for 4 websites. What have you done with your day today that's worthwhile in 4 hours? I restored the earnings to my $X,XXX websites and posted a thread to help others do the same. To me I feel like I've spent my 4 hours and "all of this time" you speak of quite well. :)

    Edit:

    People need to step out of the "SEO Mindset" for a second and really understand how a 301 redirect works on the web server side. In a servers perspective, the domain has "moved permanently" meaning the old domain no longer exists. By doing this that old domain has no meaning, it has no existence it's merely just a "door" that you open to access the new domain. People that say the "penalty" passes through don't seem to understand how this works. Essentially what you're doing is just passing all the old links you've collected to the new domain. People that are saying that there's no point, just rebuild your website and follow the "same methods" of link building are basically just telling you to do the same thing, but taking the LONG way.

    Why buy all those links again, when they're already sitting there waiting for you to use again? Those people that just build the same links are just going to get hit by Penguin again but would've spent more money on buying these links when they could've just used them from their old domain. Penalties don't "pass through", links pass through and you're building the exact same links people. Think logic. The penalties that people speak of usually "passing through" are those of manual penalties. Manual penalties pass through because those links get detected by Google and get flagged as a manual penalty. These pass through because they just find those exact same links and pass the penalty. It doesn't work this way for an algorithmic penalty and never has.
     
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