Well guys, I've just discovered a painful fact for many "white hat" guys is Google is still manipulate by black hat. I do a search on google to day for the clickbank keyword that i'm promoting. surprisingly, a blogspot site appear at the top of the serp. It has: - less than 200 words in the post - No value of the content (simply a link to vendor site) - Less than 3 weeks old (created since 31 Jul) - 1200 links from spam posts in forums (almost d0f0low) So white hat guys, please explain me what the use of: - provide useful content? - build link slowly, naturally? - links from trusted sites? - Link with high PR? and tons of "advice" I've heard. I'm not going to discuss about the conversion rate here because site like this will have very small conversion rate. This phenomenon is not from one sites but many similar sites i'm sure from 1 guy. So why we should be white hat?