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Google hates clickbank!

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by flaktrak, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. flaktrak

    flaktrak Power Member

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    Ok I have done this test on a 3 of my sites. I put clickbank adds on 3 completely whitehat sites. The day after I do this I lose 25% of my google traffic. I take clickbank off my site and nearly exactly 2 days later my traffic comes back. One of my sites went from 2000 google searches a day to 1300.

    One thing I have to add is, before I tried clickbank on these sites I only had adsense or amazon advertising.

    Another thing is that I used the hopad builder or whatever for the adds, which was probably not a great idea. On top of that the 7 days clickbank was on I got no sales anyway. SO I wont be touching clickbank again!!! It could be just that my niche isn't all that great for clickbank.

    Has anyone else seen this happen? My guess is that google follows the links and see's the spammy sell pages I am linking to with the crappy squeeze pages etc and decides my site is not as good as it used to be?

    Anyway I would like to hear some opinions about this. I am pretty sick of adsense and amazon adds. I would like to move on but am a bit worried about my traffic.
     
  2. iTumblr

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    Did you do this over the weekend?
     
  3. flaktrak

    flaktrak Power Member

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    Partly over the weekend but was a whole week.
     
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    summertime1 Junior Member

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    I was gonna ask the same thing :D
    I usually do have a drop of nearly 30% at the weekend (which might depend on my niche)

    Your sites were on different domains etc? Was it the same add? Did you change anything else?
     
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    mariosocieto Regular Member

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    maybe it's not about from google, but the visitor is just not want to buy in the weekend
     
  6. wpbacklinks

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    i don't agree.. maybe the problem is your site, your advertising method, not google. google loves all site, ofcourse a site with contents...
     
  7. flaktrak

    flaktrak Power Member

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    I took clickbank off and I am back to same searches as before. Like I said I would prefer to think it wasn't clickbank ads. However I dont think I will bother risking clickbank again on these particular sites.
     
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    One of the pages i put an ad on got deindexed in few days... The rest of the site is still indexed...
     
  9. deathclick

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    I have seen behavior like you describe with some sites. Depending on the topic of the site, Clickbank may not have very relevant results. If so, Clickbank can put some pretty awful links in a Clickbank ad block. That bad block can cause Google deindex the page in the worst cases. This rarely happens with Amazon or eBay, mainly because they will display nothing rather than garbage if it is there is no topical information.

    That said, if you are promoting an actual Clickbank product rather than an ad block, you should not have these problems.
     
  10. greentitanium

    greentitanium Senior Member

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    Id like to know if this is true?
    i have several sites with click bank and dont want them in any trouble

    cant you just cloak it some how?? im trying to figure out 303 redirects and if they work (via thesis)
     
  11. flaktrak

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    I think the main problem is I let click bank build the ads with hopad builder or whatever. So yeah clickbank put any old crap up there. for all I know porn might have been showing. Anyway I make good enough adsense money with these particular sites to leave them for now.
     
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    Not a scoop that big G hates cb I tried the same exactly a year ago same thing happened.


    If you can't decide in 1 Day, you can't decide!
     
  13. Scritty

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    Found this happens if you mix clickbank and adsense on the same page.
    I don't think it's a case of hating CB, it's just the good CB products (and there aren't many) are spammed with adds all over the place.

    The hopad builder takes time to load as well. I've seen it come up as a 404 on pages of mine quite often. Now that's something Google DOES hate. Essp if you are mixing it witrh their precious adsense.

    Best to scan CB and put up specific targetted products.

    Better still, but a decent reputable CPA offer up instead. 95% of CB products are complete shite - and those that aren't have been spammed to death.


    Scritty
     
  14. benpari

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    One of my buddies had a bunch of CB sites that weren't converting so he switched them all to adsense. He said they all increased several positions in google.
     
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    I know google does give relevance to outgoing links. Ie if you link to relevant stuff it gives you more rank etc. With clickbank the pages people land on are pretty bad! Well some of them are. I think if I do try clickbank again I won't be using the hopad builder.
     
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    If you think this a problem then next time do this:

    1 - create your links like this: http://www.yoursite.com/clickbankproductname (you change this to whatever)
    2 - Use .htaccess to redirect the above URL to the clickbank landing page
    3 - Add the nofollow atribute to the <a> link
    4 - Add in the robots.txt a disallow for the url you setup.

    This way the google bot won't have access to the url and therefore wont be able to determine the redirect.

    I am not saying I agree with what happened, seems a bit far fetched but even so, this would protect you from it.
     
  17. MaxWeber

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    Take advice in above posts, which is pernitent to your long term strategy, and i will
    add that your may not have taken a large enough sample size for your testing, and besides it always takes a few days for everything to settle down.

    There is a multitude of reasons for the fluctuation in your results, so my advice is
    test, test, and test again.
    Good Luck
     
  18. mymomatemyhomework

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    My brain hurts after reading this post. Like something I would read on DP.

    Google doesn't give a fuck about CB when it comes to organic search. I've been pushing CB aff. offers on sites for years with no issues.

    Instead of blaming a CB link I would look at something you did. And then re-consider "never touching" them again.
     
  19. greentitanium

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    I was ranked #1 for my words
    i added cb and moved 1 word in my title.
    i dropped to 10th. I MOVED THE WORD BACK!!
    hoping it wasnt the cb, will see soon


     
  20. mymomatemyhomework

    mymomatemyhomework Registered Member

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    Just apply what homenet said above when linking to a CB product.