GOOGLE has Totally Changed !!!

Expertpeon said:
I do ecommerce sites for 5-10 items max... why do you even want 12,000 items? You cannot possibly be warehousing them, and dropshipping is extremely expensive.
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Depends, the supplier I use is a distribution center and basically they charge me no different for the items I sell.

This is what I did before: Had wholesale account bought items at wholesale, they added $5 for dropship and shipping. I had to manage my own site.

What I do now: Get charged the same, no dropship fee at all they handle EVERYTHING, service, updating stock status etc.. I just have to market, but I do pay a fee every month for them to do this. But the fee is flat meaning, no matter how little or how much I sell I pay the same.
 
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I'm not worried about manual reviews, I'm not going to build a crap site obviously but here are some figures for all the analytical type of people out there.

First read this news stroy: http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/10/19/huge-internet-milestone-100-million-com-domain-names/

There are almost 100 million .COM domains registered alone. Throw in .org/.net and all the other domain TLD's and were conservatively probably at 500 million domains.

Now, G was able to run 20,000 experiments in 1 year. So lets play with some numbers:

Let's be nice and say they can review 20,000 sites a day.

100,000,000 .COM's divided by 20,000 = 5,000 days worth of work to see each site once.

5,000 divided by 365 = ~13.96 years around the clock, not 8 hour shifts.

13.69 years x 5 (for the possible 500 million sites) = ~68.49 years.

That's 68.49 years from right now with no new sites being made to "quality" check them.

I'm not to worried about the chances of my site being seen by them too soon.
 
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As the saying says "you're doing it wrong"

Google doesn't have to check all domains for quality. They only have to check the domains ranking on 1st page for keywords that have a traffic volume above a threshold. In that case the number of domains is quite low as usually a domain will rank high for multiple keyword families not just a keyword (tens of thousands or hundred of thousands keywords per family).

Trust me, if you rank for a high volume keyword family, you will get reviewed within a year.

Markthedude said:
I'm not worried about manual reviews, I'm not going to build a crap site obviously but here are some figures for all the analytical type of people out there.

First read this news stroy: http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/10/19/huge-internet-milestone-100-million-com-domain-names/

There are almost 100 million .COM domains registered alone. Throw in .org/.net and all the other domain TLD's and were conservatively probably at 500 domains.

Now, G was able to run 20,000 experiments in 1 year. So lets play with some numbers:

Let's be nice and say they can review 20,000 sites a day.

100,000,000 .COM's divided by 20,000 = 5,000 days worth of work to see each site once.

5,000 divided by 365 = ~13.96 years around the clock, not 8 hour shifts.

13.69 years x 5 (for the possible 500 million sites) = ~68.49 years.

That's 68.49 years from right now with no new sites being made to "quality" check them.

I'm not to worried about the chances of my site being seen by them too soon.
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madoctopus said:
They only have to check the domains ranking on 1st page for keywords that have a traffic volume above a threshold.
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This seems more logical to me, was that somewhere in that article and I missed it?

My interpretation of the article was more along the lines of, "hey, you're going to be viewing random sites and rating them based on this criteria we have laid out."

P.s I would love to know the threshold minimum as I build sites that target the, "low hanging fruit" usually around 250-1000 exact searches.
 
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Yeah I don't believe they will manually check everything man :O

Markthedude said:
I'm not worried about manual reviews, I'm not going to build a crap site obviously but here are some figures for all the analytical type of people out there.

First read this news stroy: http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/10/19/huge-internet-milestone-100-million-com-domain-names/

There are almost 100 million .COM domains registered alone. Throw in .org/.net and all the other domain TLD's and were conservatively probably at 500 domains.

Now, G was able to run 20,000 experiments in 1 year. So lets play with some numbers:

Let's be nice and say they can review 20,000 sites a day.

100,000,000 .COM's divided by 20,000 = 5,000 days worth of work to see each site once.

5,000 divided by 365 = ~13.96 years around the clock, not 8 hour shifts.

13.69 years x 5 (for the possible 500 million sites) = ~68.49 years.

That's 68.49 years from right now with no new sites being made to "quality" check them.

I'm not to worried about the chances of my site being seen by them too soon.
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You are right on! I've been there and I can show my scars! One manual check and you can say 'goodbye' to your moneymaker if it's considered too thin.

madoctopus said:
As the saying says "you're doing it wrong"

Google doesn't have to check all domains for quality. They only have to check the domains ranking on 1st page for keywords that have a traffic volume above a threshold. In that case the number of domains is quite low as usually a domain will rank high for multiple keyword families not just a keyword (tens of thousands or hundred of thousands keywords per family).

Trust me, if you rank for a high volume keyword family, you will get reviewed within a year.
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Well - if you have 200-500 products - would you split them into 20-50 websites? I don't think so! Each e-commerce site is different, I have one with about 600 products and it's doing fine, thank you! The problem I have is the SEO for oscommerce, but that's a completely different subject...

Expertpeon said:
I do ecommerce sites for 5-10 items max... why do you even want 12,000 items? You cannot possibly be warehousing them, and dropshipping is extremely expensive.
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I think the sad part is depending on ONE company for your position on the FREE Internet. It's as if Google OWNS the freaking Internet. It's like that 1% controlling the 99% deal.
 
MP3 man yeah lol google should die
 
Sites should have more interactive media on their homepage instead of just text. spamming 900 words CONTENT on your homepage with nothing else then sooner or later you will get pandalized. If you have a homepage with tons of content like videos, images, links to other places etc you don't have to randomize the site but having more interactive media than text then panda seems to like it.
 
just consider google a new Bride every single Day :P , to be very honest it is impossible to keep up with the google. LOL
 
Yeah guys

You all saying the same "Yeah yeah Google did this all the time"

But this time they are F8CKING checking the websites manually :O
 
daisy447 said:
Yeah guys

You all saying the same "Yeah yeah Google did this all the time"

But this time they are F8CKING checking the websites manually :O
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Google's been doing this for at least 2 years, not sure how long lionbridge has been utilized, but it's been awhile.
 
Only thing is needed now is backlink the backlinks and really good content
 
Everytime they move the goalposts - we just need to aim a bit more differently.
 
Getwhatchuwant said:
CAN be depends on if you do it on your own or if you go through someone else. My current site has over 12,000 products and it was a pain in the @ss to try to load all the sku's and keep up with out of stock items so I went with them hosting the page which only gives me limited access to what I can do.

In addition it is hard to rank for 1 KW (keyword importance) when you have say 20 or 30 categories on a page and hundreds if not thousands of sku's.

Sure you can mess around with the html but you cannot target a phrase as well with a retail site.

Thats one of the big reasons many ecommerce site owners start blogs, so they can focus in on some money KW's get some ranking and redirect the reader back to the money site. Trust me, no one WANTS to really blog about the stuff they carry when they could be selling the stuff they carry.
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No offense, everything you posted is retarded.
If you're starting a blog because you can't rank an ecommerce site for good keywords, you're doing a whole lot of things wrong.
 
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