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Google.com different rankings based on ip?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by catardat, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. catardat

    catardat Senior Member

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    If I search my site on Google.com with any other IP besides a US one I am ranking on first page with some new sites I am working on right now. When I search my rankings with US IP the sites are ranking 10 positions lower, even lower some of them. I have one that is ranking #8 on every IP but on US IP is on position #78. I had the same problem before but I have never experienced such a big difference in rankings based on IP till now. And it's like this for 2 weeks.

    Did any of you have/had the same problem? Do you know if adding the site to Google webmasters and selecting the region you want the traffic from to USA will do any good? ..thanks..
     
  2. Rua999

    Rua999 Power Member

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    Maybe you have been clicking on your site in the search with one ip and because of google's personalized search results they've artificially moved you higher when you search for that phrase again under that ip. Happened to me before i was thinking i was number one before checking on us proxy :)
     
  3. catardat

    catardat Senior Member

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    No, this is not the case.
     
  4. bryanon

    bryanon Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Rankings often differ from region to region, and it's only natural that your sites rank lower in the US compared to other countries as US has far more competition than any other country.

    I'm not sure whether setting the target region in GWMT helps or not as I haven't personally tried it. Quite interested to hear the opinion of those who have tried/tested it.
     
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  5. nukemaster66

    nukemaster66 Newbie

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    Google uses different servers based on your ip. It is absolutely normal to rank differently with different country ips. google webmaster tools will help you. also try to build links from those countries you want to rank. eg if you want to rank in the us, build more us-based backlinks, if you want to rank in austraila, build more australian-based backlinks. hope that makes it clear.
     
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    Autumn Elite Member

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    Possibly you are hitting different data centres based on your IP and they're using a different version of the index. It's also possible that Google will return different results based on localization.
     
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    Techxan Elite Member

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    I see the same thing when I do keyword research with my Canadian proxies. My sites rank differently in a Canadian search than US.
     
  8. Nato1

    Nato1 Regular Member

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    it is not even limited to country ips. i get different results in different cities...
     
  9. makemecash

    makemecash Regular Member

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    IP can* affect your rankings to a certain point, but unless there are serious issues with your IP, your rankings won't be affected.
     
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    Good answer, but the question was different ;).

    I think that google is able to personalize your search results based on your location (IP). Some search terms are considered to be more "local" then the others. However that's just my observations.

    D.
     
  11. brkseven

    brkseven Regular Member

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    Not to mention that the results are relative to other websites, so what applies to your applies to theirs, but the result could be certainly different based on the factors already mentioned.So your website could be perfectly fine, but another could be doing better in that specific country, index, IP, whatever, and rank higher than yours and viceversa.
     
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    Poloy Registered Member

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    They can certainly know where you are located base on your IP, Big G is just getting smarter everyday
     
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    souldetective Regular Member

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    Clear cache....Google Chrome, mozilla and almost all of them saves information. info is not always deleted even when u del cache. and sometimes it happens because servers are not updated according to .com
     
  14. flibbertigibbet

    flibbertigibbet Regular Member

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    IP DOES affect rankings depending on what IP you are using. As someone else mentioned, they also DO change from city to city, and even zipcodes. Google is very specialized like that. If you don't believe it, try out a few different proxies (go to starbucks and/or mcdonalds) and check your rankings after you've cleared all of your cookies. Chances are if you're in a big enough city, the results will not be the same. If you have more than one data center in your area as well, sometimes you'll see one set of results at one part of the day, and another set of results during a different part of the day. Where I'm located, there are two data centers nearby. One data center shows results during the first part of the day, and then late at night (around 10pm-12pm PST) it changes to the other data center and results are completely different. If you change your country preference in GWMT your website will be favored in THAT country (the one that you choose), so if you decide you want it to favor the UK, chances are your website might disappear or move way down from the US search results. It just depends on how strong your link authority and relevancy is to the particular keyword s that you're trying to rank for. I've tested this on multiple occasions, as much of my traffic is from international sources. I would highly recommend using backlinks from the country you are trying to rank in instead of switching it on GWMT because then you have a better chance of ranking EVERYWHERE instead of just one country like you would if you switched in in GWMT. Most keywords have people searching from multiple countries anyway, not just one. Take "Michael Jackson" for example. He's known internationally, so people search for that term not only in the US, but also in other english speaking countries like the UK, Australia, Canada, Ireland, France, ect. ect. Hope this helps.

    P.S. Sometimes Starbucks and McDonalds use what's called "Wandering Wi-Fi", where they actually give you an ip that is NOT in your city. This explains different results to some extent, but if you check it and the ip is NOT located in your city, try a local library or coffee shop besides starbucks, as they are likely to have a local ip. :) Hotels work too.
     
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  15. catardat

    catardat Senior Member

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    Thanks for responding. I know all that, the weird thing was the huge difference between rankings, and that the sites were improving their rankings on all the Google data centers besides the US ones. This took 3 weeks. But it's all cool now, yesterday when I checked I saw most of them ranking on US IP 1-3 positions lower only. It took longer than usual for Google to update the rankings for their US IP data centers.