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Google CAN track every site you visit!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by tony_d, May 27, 2014.

  1. tony_d

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    I had an alarming realization a moment ago.

    I, like many of you, am using Google's DNS servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4). This actually means Google DOES know every website I visit, even if I type it directly into my browser bar.

    Google could log all requests made to their DNS servers, and use that data to know exactly who controls websites/PBNs, etc.
    For example, if G suspected www.pbnsite.com was a PBN site, they need only to trawl their logs to see who requested pbnsite.com/wp-admin, and then trawl their logs again to see what other /wp-admin requests that user made...!

    This theory, when expanded, also can mean that with sufficient data retention and analysis, they could in fact easily discover which individual users made which 2.0 properties, forums posts, tweets, etc.

    This theory relies on my assumption that the entire URL is transmitted to the DNS server. It seems logical that it would, otherwise the browser would have to strip the request to the root domain level, query the DNS for the IP address of the web server, then re-send the entire page-level request to the web server. I don't imagine that's very efficient, so I presume that's not how it works.

    so... changing DNS settings now. I suggest you do the same.

    I also presume some people will say "the connection is HTTPS secure, so they can't see what you're requesting"... but, I would make the point that in order to establish the secure connection, the URL first needs to resolve to a destination, and it does so via the DNS server.
     
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  2. youmakeme

    youmakeme Power Member

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    Google basically tracks every single possible information. It is in cahoot with the USA Government to track every single individuals online activities. Going forward the intention of Google would be to force an online identity to every individual which uses its service so that it can trace all individual activities online. This is something that the USA government is strongly in favor. Yes, you can have freedom of speech, but the authorities reserves the right to identify and prosecute you for freedom of speech..
     
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    Well... I was trying to go a little less tin-foil-hat, but, I also can't say there is no evidence to support your claims :p
     
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    Why would anyone use Google's DNS servers instead of their ISP's?
     
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    I use them because I changed it a couple of weeks ago and couldn't be bothered changing back. I change to Google DNS because I was having trouble with a domain resolving to the new IP. It was taking hours so I put Google's DNS in and it worked straight away.

    Many people are also using Chrome which I assume tracks what you do.

    I think it would be good to use Google's DNS and a proxy because that would throw them off heaps. Also, I think your over estimating the man-power at Google. They are just a bunch of Silicon Valley D-bags that spend their whole day playing ping-pong and talking about how creative they are.
     
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    Here is a list of free and public DNS servers:

    Provider Primary DNS Server Secondary DNS Server
    Level3 209.244.0.3 209.244.0.4
    Google 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
    Comodo Secure DNS 8.26.56.26 8.20.247.20
    OpenDNS Home 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
    DNS Advantage 156.154.70.1 156.154.71.1
    Norton ConnectSafe 199.85.126.10 199.85.127.10
    GreenTeamDNS 81.218.119.11 209.88.198.133
    SafeDNS 195.46.39.39 195.46.39.40
    OpenNIC 216.87.84.211 23.90.4.6
    Public-Root 199.5.157.131 208.71.35.137
    SmartViper 208.76.50.50 208.76.51.51
    Dyn 216.146.35.35 216.146.36.36
    censurfridns.dk 89.233.43.71 89.104.194.142
    Hurricane Electric 74.82.42.42
    puntCAT 109.69.8.51
    I recommend OpenDNS, however your default DNS from the ISP is usually enough.
     
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  8. SteveWaller

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    Well I don't use Google's DNS servers but I do use Chrome. Is there a risk to this? Yes. Is it a big risk? Not in my opinion.

    And who says Wordpress is the only platform used for PBNs? It certainly isn't for me...in fact I'm adding new platforms all the time.
     
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    I use one router with dynamic ip address, not is set ISP...

    Its ok? Sorry i dont understand it.... how can i see if my DNS is default from my ISP?

    And i need change my dns everytime when login in my pbn?

    Thanks
     
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    lol stay the hell away from chrome.. that spyware piece of sh*t browser..

    what's creeping me out is that the latest firefox update looks so much like google chrome. Not liking these changes. at all.
     
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    I'm using OpenDNS, had some problems with my ISP's DNS. Used Google for a while too, then I realized how foolish I was.
     
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    Why you bothered if you arent doing anything illegal
     
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    Is it OK if I come and stare at you through your living room window?
    You aren't doing anything illegal so you shouldn't be bothered.
     
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    Since google are now using artificial intelligence technology they acquired, i suggest we keep our curtains closed.
     
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    Thats different though, you really think someone in google is checking up on you and looking at everything youve been on
     
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    What? .... Just go, leave now. Please
     
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    Why the fuck would they need to log the shit you've been doing then?
    Do you honestly think they just collect this data because they feel like doing it for no reason?
     
  18. tony_d

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    Oh, I see. You're the person who arbitrarily gets to decide which privacy invasions are ok, and which aren't.

    Nice to meet you!
     
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    Not different at all.

    If they have the capabilities then they are surely using them.
    The bigger the company, the less worried they are about an individuals privacy.

    Data = Money
    The more data they can collect means they can generate more revenue from it.

    http://bgr.com/2014/03/24/gmail-email-snooping-terms-apple/
    http://www.wired.com/2014/04/threatlevel_0401_streetview/
    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ein-in-nsas-snooping/articleshow/35507807.cms
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/google-wifi-snooping/
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24047235
    http://news.yahoo.com/google-denies-snooping-gmail-users-hunt-down-leaks-184807636.html

    Seriously, people should be MORE worried about Google than the NSA
     
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  20. Standard Toaster

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    I don't let paranoia stop me from using the awesome Chrome.

    Also, to the OP, no dns queries are made for the "host" only and full part of the url is not sent. You might have heard about "clearing dns cache". That means, not every url you visit is/can logged, a dns cache is used to serve requests and it re-builds in a specific time.