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Ghostwriting %?!

Discussion in 'Associated Content & Writing Articles' started by auxiliarus, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. auxiliarus

    auxiliarus Regular Member

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    Hi,
    What's the rate of % from the sales you can get from GhostWriting? Could it be anywhere near 30-40%?
    And are there any possibilities that you might not get paid?
     
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    ArtVandelay Power Member

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    Ghostwriting for what? A blog? A rap artist?
     
  3. auxiliarus

    auxiliarus Regular Member

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    A 300-400 page book?
    I tried searching, but didn't find any % rates, only per word/page rates.
     
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    auxiliarus Regular Member

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    Bump!
     
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    maybe im not answering your question, but if ghost writers are real good, why aren't they real writers and why do they have to be ghost writers?
     
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    Exactly OP please answer that great post by Paranoid Android
     
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  7. ArtVandelay

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    You definitely don't need to splurge on a bump a grand total of 4 minutes after the precedent post. Especially when there are people like me looking to respond to it. God forbid I wait 6 minutes to follow up to my last post... Now I'm taking extra long, I know. But I'll grant you with another much desired bump.

    % splits are uncommon for something like this. I'm no expert but you'd have to figure it out on an individual basis. If you're writing 100% of the content 30-40% seems low to me. Does this person you're writing for have a name that will make the product more commercially successful? If no, it sounds like you're doing 100% of the work for 60% nothing.

    Of course there's a possibility you won't get paid. Take measures to prevent that. Contracts are a start. Be the person on the writing side of the pen. You're liable to be thoroughly shafted if it's the other way around.
     
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  8. auxiliarus

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    Simple, GhostWriting is better in our days than just releasing a book on your name.Maybe before it was easy, but these days you won't get your book sold by your name.Just think about it, what would sell faster? A book with the same title by John Smiths Anderson or a book with the same title by Obama? Obviously Obama would sell faster, anyway GhostWriting is better for selling because you would instantly start doing mega sales instead of waiting for your book under your name few years before it gets some attention.
     
  9. LaLore

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    Ghostwriters getting a % of sales? You mean royalties. Google the Writers Market pdf on "What to charge" as a guideline. However, usually only those ghostwriters that have been in the biz for a while and have a substantial number of "books" under their belt have a royalty % included in a contract and it's not the high % you're quoting. Experienced ghostwriters can command a high fee but typically this is reserved for books that are on a published bestseller track.
     
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    Okay, anyway thanks everyone who answered.
     
  11. mozoak

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    Many reasons:
    I may be a good writer but might not have the requisite marketing skills to publish in my name (and be successful)
    I may not have the money/resources to popularize and market my content
    I might be looking for some quick money and since I have the writing skills, I don't mind earning money with it

    OP - If you are just starting out (and assuming you have the required skills), it is easier to get paid "per content", instead of a profit sharing JV method. This also eliminates the possibility of not getting paid, if the JV doesn't earn any profits.


     
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    As others have said, % is rare. You get paid per word. 3 cents per word if you're just starting out. Once you're established you can charge much more.

    Ghostwriting is hard to get into because you often can't use your past work as a reference or testimonial. It's the nature of the business and NDAs can be a pain in the ass.

    Paranoid Arnold,

    We do it because it pays? Contracts go for $25,000 or more. If someone really wants their life story told their way, they'll pay.

    Kindle is also creating new opportunities for those just getting started. Granted those jobs don't pay all that much. Still, if you're a proficient writer those $300 deals can be a good income source.

    Always, always always get money upfront. If they don't have enough faith to pay half up front by the time they're ready to hire you, why should you have faith in them?
     
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  13. Jason Wolfe

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    Ghostwriters should be paid upfront, not from royalties or percentage of the profit. Some people approach me and ask if they could pay 50% upfront and the rest will be paid when the work is done, but I always turn down such offers. There are also ghostwriters who agree to take a percentage of the profit but that could go either way. You could earn thousands of dollars, or you could earn virtually nothing. Wouldn't want to take that risk.