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Getting rid of Google Panda's Algorithms in 2012

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by donArmando, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. donArmando

    donArmando Regular Member

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    For all of my friends here i wanted to share some information based on results.

    We all know that google is using different algorithms and hitting sites for different purposes with their panda's updates. But which sites in reality do they hit?

    Types of sites that are hit by Panda :

    1. Auto Blogs (Most of them)
    2. Duplicated Content (Most of them)
    3. Blog Networks (They will start soon to get hit)
    4. Sites with Spam links (Most of them)
    5. Sites with low quality Content (Some of them)
    6. Micro Niche Sites (Sites with just 1-3 posts and for Adsense Purpose)

    I've heard a lot of peoples claiming that they had complete white hat pages and they were hit, but when they send to me their sites, what i've saw was either duplicate content or spam backlinks.

    What you should do to stay away from problems with Google. I know that this is a black hat site but for long term projects it is the best to go with safer ways for your site.

    Okay here is the list of things that you should do to be safe from algorithms.

    Do:

    1.Quality Content (Still the King and it always will be as that's what peoples will be reading).
    2.At least 10 pages with quality content per site (Avoid very small sites, if they aren't still hit they will be soon).
    3.Avoid Backlinks from Spam sites. (You are looking for quality, and if you are getting links from a site that is removed from Google, believe me that you are decreasing your sites ranking)
    4.Avoid Blog Network links (Not all of them, avoid those blog networks that have a high OBL, now Google has an algorithm which will hit those sites, like in the early days of Panda when they hit Article Directories.
    5.Link Neighborhood : I said it before, try to get links from authority sites and not from Spam Sites.

    This are 5 things that you should do but there are some more which i won't mention as they won't do any big difference.

    So it is clear that you should Avoid :

    Spammy Backlinks
    Duplicated Articles
    Small Micro Niche Sites
    Duplicated Content
    and Low Quality Content

    So you may ask, how in the hell can i automate the link building process? Well pretty simple, let's start with scrapebox:

    1. Scrapebox by some peoples is considered as a dead tool.. But in fact is more alive than ever.
    It is always better to work smart than to work hard...
    So people claim that Scrapebox is harming their sites. Of course that it is, when you are just posting in different spam sites. While you have scrapebox and you can find very good links with low OBL, Why in the hell do you blast your sites to those spam links?
    So do not say that the tool is harming your site, it is you who are using it in the wrong way.

    2. Senuke X : Can it create web 2.0 profiles? If yes than just add good content and you will get quality backlinks from those sites.

    3. X-rumer : Can it create forum profiles ? If yes than just go and post like 10-20 posts and put your links on signature and those links are quality links.

    4. Bookmark your site : Do you have one of the Bookmarking tools? If yes than you can use as they won't harm your sites.

    And a lot of other tools which you can use in a good way, but what i see is people blasting sites and doing nothing good.


    Analyzing your Competitor Backlinks is another thing which should be taken in consideration.

    1. Take the first 5 competitors and check their backlinks.
    2. Check which are the links that most of the competitors are linking too (Those links are valuable)
    3. Link to those links
    4. Find quality links by your self which your competitors do not have.
    5. Create links to those links.

    And that's it on outranking a competitor.

    The last but not least, Create links relevant to your niche (Not always, but it is good to have links which are in the broad topic to yours).

    So if you follow this rules, i'm sure that you won't be hit by Panda or any other Algorithm which is trying to get away those sites which aren't bringing quality.

    Hope some of you can learn some things from this thread.
     
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  2. DutchTrafficService

    DutchTrafficService Regular Member

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    I'm ranking with content nobody can read.
    With panda 3.3 all the way to panda 10.0.

    Thanks.
     
  3. donArmando

    donArmando Regular Member

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    As i said duplicated content sites ( Most of them) are hit. If your site is in other language rather than in English it can be easier to be ranked.
     
  4. FuryKyle

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    Like a boss baby.
     
  5. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    Thanks for the info... I have questions:

    1) do you have a more mathematical formula?

    2) what defines a spammy site?

    3) why do you link to the links that your competitors are using? won't this just give more credit to your competitors?

    4) are forum signatures still good if they are not no follow? how many links in each forum signature can you post before its ignored by google?

    5) what is panda?

    6) what is a lot of OBL? is there a formula?

    7) how do you know all this?
     
  6. manny521

    manny521 Supreme Member

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    I was slapped really hard by panda 3.3 on Feb 17th and I am starting to see signs of recovery.

    I have de-optimized my anchor text on every link I have created since then, using naked url's and links like "click here" etc...

    This strategy seems to be bringing me back from the dead.
     
  7. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    what did panda see in your linking/sites that you think was the cause?

    all of your links have the same anchor text?
     
  8. manny521

    manny521 Supreme Member

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    #1 - I bought high pr home page backlinks (I had around 200 of these links and I was paying $500 per month for these links to stay where they were)...I have since canceled these backlinks...

    #2 - I had a great variety of anchor text, but it wasn't de-optimized...and when I mean de-optimized, I mean you need to have anchor links with naked urls, garbage anchor text (such as "click here" "visit website"...etc...), and brand name anchors...

    #3 - I had some links in private networks, but I don't think this was the cause of the penalty as it was a small percentage of my links...greater than 75% of my links are in 2.0's, social bookmarks, etc...

    Nonetheless, I have been in the penalty for around 30 days and today I saw some really good improvements in my SERPs. I have been aggressively de-optimizing my anchor text and increasing my social signals 1000% on twitter, facebook and google+...

    I need a large portion of my indexed url's to have my brand name in the anchor, probably around 50%, give or take...10-20% garbage anchor text, click here...etc...

    And the rest, exact match anchor text...

    I really think google dialed up the BLOOP (Back Link Over Optimization Penalty) and this is how they were able to send out 700,000 unnatural link messages in GWT...Google sent out more unnatural link messages in January and February than all of 2011...Google turned up the BLOOP dial and I think this is the best explanation...

    I could be wrong, this is just my best guess...

    Increase your social signals (lost of good retweet services on fiver.com) and de-optimize your anchor text....seems to be working for me, but every site is different and all results will differ from site to site...

    We will overcome...google is a math equation...all math equations have a solution...
     
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  9. rahulsharma87

    rahulsharma87 Newbie

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    That's really a great intel.... I am still confused with what actually we call a spammy website?????
     
  10. donArmando

    donArmando Regular Member

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    Okay i'll try to answer your questions :

    1) do you have a more mathematical formula?

    1.No i do not have any mathematical formula and i do not thing that anyone has it yet.

    2) what defines a spammy site?

    A spammy site is a website which has a lot of backlinks on it. Example on blog comments :
    If you use a website which has 200+ Blog comments than it is a spammed website which you wouldn't like to get links.

    Another example : A website which is not indexed by google will hurt your rankings

    3) why do you link to the links that your competitors are using? won't this just give more credit to your competitors?

    Well i put my links to the competitors backlinks and i do not backlink their backlinks.
    Answer: Because some of the links are quality and give link juice.

    4) are forum signatures still good if they are not no follow? how many links in each forum signature can you post before its ignored by google?

    Answer: Link signatures can be good and bad.
    They are good when they are related to the topic
    They are bad when they are not related to the niche.
    Also it is better to build forum posts than forum profiles as you will get more link juice.



    5) what is panda?

    Panda is a piece of algorithm that Google has brought to life to kill different type of sites, like : Link Farms, Duplicated Content sites, Auto Blogs and low quality sites.

    6) what is a lot of OBL? is there a formula?

    Again the Blog Comment Example :
    If in a website or blog where you want to live your backlinks there are a lot of other sites leaving their backlinks than it has a high OBL or lot of outbound links.

    7) how do you know all this?

    Well i'm talking based on my experience. I tried different ways of linking and ranking the sites and i analyzed different factors and saw that which are more important on link building.
     
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  11. orzyman

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    ok so what if you get links from sites with low OBL and as time goes on they get spammed with tons of blog comments ?
     
  12. donArmando

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    Your links still have value as Google knows when a link was posted and how near the content it was. The only one's who will have the problem on the blog comments are those who use their anchor text after 100+ blog comments were added to the blog.
    Also it is good to use names as anchor text.
     
  13. Kosher1

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    Only 3 % of our sites got hit and only on a few keywords not all.

    Will update in a few months as we try different methods on those 3%.
     
  14. warjam1945

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    Here's a question the article on the web2.0 does each article need to be different with different anchor text?
     
  15. junkiepipes

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    Someone suggested blasting 400 bookmarks to get things started out of the penalty, changing some meta and then blasting some more... Anyone try that?
     
  16. simona86

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    Quality, addictive content (makes readers want to comeback), links from relevant, authority sites, and social signals (Facebook, Twitter, +, etc.)
     
  17. manny521

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    You can blast as many social bookmarks as you want...go with 2000...

    Buuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttt...........make the anchor url's de-optimized anchor text...

    like naked url's...like "click here"...etc...

    do not include your keywords in the anchor text....DE-OPTIMIZE your anchor text...

    over 50% of your anchor text should not be de-optimized...
     
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