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Getting out of the sandbox: A Quick And Easy Method

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by drogon, Jun 18, 2011.

  1. drogon

    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    The quick and easy method


    Note: this method will only be useful to those who are prepared to lose most of the baclinks they already built and happy to start almost from scratch rather than waiting anything from 6 to 9 months for your site to come out of the sandbox. So you need to determine how much your current backlinks are worth in comparison to getting out fo the sandbox now but starting from scratch and building new backlinks.



    1. Determine if your site is indexed in Google with or with the 'WWW'.
    2. Check your back links in yahoo site explorer to see which version of your site has the most back links So check hxxp://yoursite.org and hxxp://www.yoursite.org


    Now your site should normally both have the most back links and also indexed with or with the 'WWW'.


    Now lets say your site is indexed (and sand-boxed) without the 'WWW'. So appears in Google as hxxp://yoursite.org. What you need to do now is change your site to appear with the 'WWW' (and vice versa) and thus negate the effects of the back links pointing at your site and enable you to restart your link building. So, if using Wordpress:



    1. Login to your Admin area dashboard, click on 'Settings' and under 'General Settings', change the Site address (URL) to include the 'WWW' (or remove the 'WWW' if you are doing this the other way around) so Site address (URL) = hxxp://www.yoursite.org and click 'Save Changes'.
    2. Still under 'Settings', click on your XML site map generator plug-in and change the path of your site map to reflect the new location (with 'WWW'). If using Google XML Site maps, you may need to choose 'custom location' and enter the absolute or relative site map path for your host account and the complete URL path. Click to 'update' options.
    3. If you have added your site to Google Webmaster then you need to login to Webmaster Tools and add your site with 'WWW' (or without if the changes you are making is the other way around) and submit a new site map You should also delete the old entry that does not have the 'WWW' entry.
    4. Sit back and give it a week or 2 and your site should reappear in the top 100 and out of the sandbox.


    I did this with a site that was in the sandbox for 5 months and it came out within a week at position no.25 and now at 21 so I didn?t completely lose all the link juice. I would rather a starting position of no.21 than having to wait a few more months and lost revenue so as I already said it it only useful if you are happy to start again and build your links more carefully this time.


    The Non Quick And easy method.


    This method worked for 6 other sites I had in the sandbox but not the above site hence the need for the changes above.



    1. Obtain 20 to 50 related keywords to your main keyword.
    2. Build link pyramids to your website using 2 or 3 of your main keywords (I used the link pushing service) and wait 1-2 weeks for the links to get fully indexed.
    3. While you wait, blast your site with high Pr profile back links targeting only your related keywords.
    4. Scrapebox, Article Marketing Robot and Xrumer blast your link pyramid with majority of the related keywords. The more related keywords the better.
    5. Wait 1 or 2 months and your site should reappear out of the sandbox. If not, keep blasting the pyramid with only related keywords or if you get sick of waiting use the quick and easy method!
     
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  2. milke_sj

    milke_sj Junior Member

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    Interesting read, will have to test this out.

    Thanks
     
  3. adsterhome

    adsterhome Regular Member

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    I have a site being sanded. I hope your help could success with me. Thank you !
     
  4. Usman Nasir

    Usman Nasir Registered Member

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    Let me try this method as well, because its being 15 days site is still not back let see.
     
  5. drogon

    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    15 days might just be Google dance so might be worth waiting a bit longer before taking action. Either way keep building links from diverse sources and diverse anchor text.
     
  6. scopezero

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    lemme be the first one to thank you my mate , thanks for sharing the info , i have few sandboxed throwaway domain and will test it on them and if this works i will post an update for ut method

    Thanks again
    scope0
     
  7. drogon

    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    Forgot to mention, it also helps to add new and unique content if using the second (longer) method.

    Cheers.
     
  8. dantob

    dantob Power Member

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    When you guys are saying sandbox is when you're site is indexed (by doing a "site:domainname", but it is not showing up for its keyword in the like the first 15 pages of the SERPs? I have several of these sites that just disappeared and no where to be found like 1 month ago. Is this the type of situation to implement this method?
     
  9. Riposte

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    Yeah that is a good question. How exactly should one define sandbox? Some kind of penalty that makes it impossible to move above a certain rank, or just not showing up at all in a keyword search (but still indexed).

    For example, I've been focusing on one of my sites that was sandboxed, but managed to crawl my way out from not showing up in the index at all for the main keyword search (still indexed though), to page 55-60. I did it through a bunch of link building, but now it seems stuck there.

    I wonder if the site is screwed no matter what I do. I am planning on doing a massive link building campaign for it, but I'm not sure if it has some kind of penalty that would make it impossible to bump up back to page 1. Any recommendations?
     
  10. dantob

    dantob Power Member

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    Ya those are valid concerns of mine as well. I have sites that have just disappeared, but still indexed, then there are sites that were ranking in the top 3 of SERPs for their main keyword and now have been kicked to page 4/5 of the SERPs. I don't know to call the later event sandboxed or just being hit by Panda. It just seem to me that when these sites that get hit and dropped in the SERPs they have a hard time coming back up even with tons of new backlinks.
     
  11. drogon

    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    Sandbox = Site is indexed but not ranking in top 100 or even top 1000 for several weeks or several months and just stuck there. This is when you might want to consider either of the two options.

    Google Dance = Site indexed but lost ranking position only a few days up to around a couple of weeks and comes back usually stronger. Just wait for your site to settle down but if its still 'dancing' after several weeks andnot come back then its in the sandbox.
     
  12. drogon

    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    Looks like a got a negative rep from someone for this post with comment:

    "Thanks for your shitty advice. My site is now facked up"!

    Whoever you are maybe you need to post what you did an what went wrong than leaving silly remarks.

    I have tested this on my own sites and works perfectly so not sure exactly how your site can be fucked up by simply choosing to use the www or not!

    Note: Just in case some people fail to follow the instructions and take extra steps that may 'fuck up' their sites: The 'Wordpress Address URL' should NOT be changed. It is only the 'Site Address URL' that should be changed as mentioned above.
     
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  13. ghengis_khan

    ghengis_khan Regular Member

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    backlink variety is the key. Most of my sites that were sandboxed or 'penalised' (the -50 or the dreaded -500) had only 1 type of backlink or had mostly the same anchor text. After months went by I decided to throw some random links at them. 2 out of 3 jumped straight back to top-10 positions. The one that didn't has 50k scrapebox comments... was a failed experiment I guess ;D