1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Getting Forum Traffic and Members = HARD

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Brandon, Jun 15, 2008.

  1. Brandon

    Brandon Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well it's hard for me. My previous niche was easier. I'm trying to figure out how to get traffic and forum members to a music/guitar forum and am having no luck coming up with anything. Forum members at related forums are so loyal and don't want to leave there to come to my new forum.

    what should I do? Anyone have any sure working ways to get forum members?
     
  2. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Messages:
    1,893
    Likes Received:
    1,196
    Brandon,
    Developing legitimate communities is, as I'm sure you're aware, one of the hardest things to do, regardless of whether that community is in the real world or online. The most effective traditional ways of building community all center around one very simple axiom of human psychology; human beings do not like to change their behavior without an overwhelming incentive to do so. One of the hardest behaviors to change are ones that revolve around social networks. How do you get someone to change their set of friends or people they relate to? In most cases, you don't.

    What value does your forum provide to the user's life or online experience that any other forum dealing with the same field do not provide? Perhaps one way to approach this issue would be to identify what aspects of music forums you dislike and then figure out a way to ensure that your forum avoids those pitfalls. It's very likely that if you have negative feelings about a specific aspect of music forums, there are many others that feel the same way.

    Rather than trying to push and prod people into your forum, allowing them the opportunity to co-exist in a place that avoids all of the trappings of the generic forum might create a sort of win-win vacuum. Once you hit a specific tipping point of members, your only issues will be how to deal with the onslaught of new members, but that is an entirely different issue altogether.

    I hope that was helpful and good luck.
     
  3. Brandon

    Brandon Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks oldenstylehats.

    Well my forum is very basic and really fast loading :) I feel that simple is better. Also, have you ever liked one forum better than another just because of the look of it? Seriously, a flashy looking forum never attracted me for some reason.

    Anyway, I think I know what I'm going to have to do. That is offer an incentive. It being a music forum, I guess I'll have to fork out money and give away some gear for the top posters.
     
  4. Smitty

    Smitty BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2008
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    365
    You can start by tossing the link to your forum in your sig...

    May not be targeted but hell you'd be surprised.

    I know most of the members here have interests outside of
    blackhat :)

    Worth a shot.
     
  5. MoneyMafia

    MoneyMafia Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2007
    Messages:
    290
    Likes Received:
    310
    I think you should offer incentives for signing up not for top posters.....
     
  6. Smitty

    Smitty BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2008
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    365

    Yah, top posters just means a whole bunch of garabage threads and posts.
     
  7. tonlilaz

    tonlilaz Executive VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,558
    Likes Received:
    1,700
    Occupation:
    Deleting crappy threads on BHW, making good use of
    Location:
    Over There
    Home Page:
    there's one great way to build community traffic!
    it takes time, but i've done it a while back.

    all you do is become a popular person on a few hot boards, build a great rep, and build a big post count.

    then let everybody know you have a board/forum.

    it's fucking difficult to build a community from a bunch of strangers
    a lot easier to build one with pple you know and friends
     
  8. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    1,441
    Occupation:
    Basically, I just walk the Earth.
    Location:
    The Layer Cake
    Why exactly do you want to build up this new forum? If you're going to resell or something, you could much more easily just fakepost it.

    N
     
  9. DrJekyll

    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2007
    Messages:
    831
    Likes Received:
    697
    Location:
    1-9 for your Keyword goodluck
    I have read that getting a lot of activity is key, [dont know from experience] basically i was part of a good forum, but no activity from 6k+ people so it was dead.

    we suggested to the owner to hire a posting service but they did not want that. we had action for a while, till the questions stopped.

    you need to mix active posts, with traffic though. Hopefully someone else has more experience with posting services and can share.
     
  10. starstreet

    starstreet Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2008
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    319
    yes offer incentive is the best way to get visitor/member.. if your forum posting nice people will keep on coming...
     
  11. Brandon

    Brandon Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've decided on offering a $50 amazon gift card to the top poster. It will be sent via email. Lasts for 1 month, minimum posts has to be 50, and the posts have to be genuine.

    What do y'all think? Is this good enough for a start? Or a shitty deal?
     
  12. MoneyMafia

    MoneyMafia Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2007
    Messages:
    290
    Likes Received:
    310
    Bro .users posts on forums for the purpose of sharing informations .. Asking questions and read other people opinions.. Even if BHW will offer me $100 Adwords voucher I'll not start posting like mad here ..or the ones they are mind set to get the gift will make a bunch of useless posts that will turn off potential new users ...
    A good ideology in marketing is to put yourself in the shoes of your customer.. .Why will you sign up on a guitar/music forum !?
    In my case I'll signup and post if
    1 - I get a gift just for signin up ( an online course , an e-book , access to private informations ) <--- Just like autoresponders work
    2 - I see posts that makes me answer like .. What you think about new video of XXX band
    Check here my new song on guitar blah blah ( controversal questions)
    3 - Some of my friends are already there

    Good luck


    P.S. To build a community takes time ..Be ready to spend time building it and do not expect immediate results.
    Also I'm thinking starting a site with the single purpose of creating a forum is not working anymore.. Forums should be an asset ..not the site...
     
  13. tattoo

    tattoo Regular Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Messages:
    405
    Likes Received:
    36
    Occupation:
    vagrant
    Location:
    mars
    forums have chicken and egg problem, so:

    Are there ways to:
    - show a fake number of registered users
    - show a fake number of users online
    - show a fake number of guests online
    - populate the forum with x number of good posts

    Without a lot of activity and posts, people will decide it's a dead forum and never join...
     
  14. MR.blackhat

    MR.blackhat Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2007
    Messages:
    270
    Likes Received:
    46
    Occupation:
    Black Hat Marketer
    Location:
    USA
    I know a great tactic to help your problem, Please PM me if you want to talk personally
     
  15. maineyak

    maineyak Power Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2008
    Messages:
    600
    Likes Received:
    555
    Somewhere on the web I found a "pay to post" forum software. I can't remember who developed it.
     
  16. maineyak

    maineyak Power Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2008
    Messages:
    600
    Likes Received:
    555
    xxtp://alstra*soft.com/forum-pay-per-post-exchange.htm
     
  17. Atlas

    Atlas Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2008
    Messages:
    214
    Likes Received:
    74
    Location:
    AirShip1
    I agree with tattoo, get those numbers up. Regardless of the topic, if the forum seems empty no one wants to post. Add a couple 100+ fake users, and either post fake threads yourself or hire someone.