Just gonna rant, need to get it out curious if anyone else feels the same. I built a white hat site for a SEO company I started, I got it to PR4 with lots of quality and average links with tons of anchor variety + tons of blog posts and work put into the site. I moved up to like 1-3 for all my keywords and was stable for months. I commented on a seo blog a month ago, and the link went on the side bar for recent comments. Needless to say, that website got hacked and THOUSANDS of links were created with urls like site/buy-viagra. Since my comment was on the side bar I got like 5k links wiht viagra terms pointed at the site. Emailed owner, no response. Within about 3 weeks my site was slapped. Many of my clients sites got massive penalties as well for no apparent reason. Like I said, WHITE HAT seo. Even if I got the links removed I'd probably have to bust my ass to get it back up there. SEO is really jacked up these days, negative SEO is very real, and Google is more fickle than a hooker. Every update can penalize your site, good seo or bad seo. Feels bad guys. Really considering quitting SEO and going into different online marketing ventures like paid advertising etc. Gonna be fun telling a new client just as I started SEO on his site (he had a BH provider before) it dropped 80 positions, cool. EDIT: Now I realize I was probably update penalized.. but whatever same shit.