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Getting back to Adwords after a permanent ban imposed years ago?

Discussion in 'Adwords' started by ruger999, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. ruger999

    ruger999 Newbie

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    Hey guys,

    In 2011 I got permanently banned from Adwords, apparently for having "bridge pages" as an affiliate marketer.
    I'm interested to get back on Adwords once again for affiliate marketing purposes.

    how I got banned in short:

    In 2009-2010 I had multiple affiliate websites, Somewhere In 2010 most of my campaigns started to get slapped, and I received a warning email from Adwords, saying: "Final Warning: Your Google AdWords account has multiple violations", for having poor quality landing pages.
    I replied and said that I don't have time to make any immediate changes (as it required some deep thinking), and asked google if pausing all my campaigns would be OK.

    Google replied I should delete the offending campaigns, which I immediately did. I then took a break from the affiliate marketing business.

    In 2011 I've logged into my account and saw a message saying it got permanently banned without any notice.

    I've emailed adwords telling them I had deleted all my campaigns as they had suggested.
    I got a very laconic reply, saying:

    "As mentioned in our previous email, your Google AdWords account has been
    suspended due to multiple violations of our landing page policies. Upon
    review, we've determined that this account suspension was made in
    accordance with AdWords policy and procedure. For this reason, we aren't
    able to revoke your account suspension and won't accept advertisements
    from you in the future."

    I've replied them that this is incorrect, as the only thing that came up in my previous correspondence with Adwords was the mutual agreement that I would delete my campaigns, and that should be enough.

    Google gave me a final reply basically saying there's nothing to do about it.

    Only today, I have noticed that I did something incorrectly regarding my campaign deletion -
    The Adwords rep. in 2010 had told me to delete my *Ads* as well, and I forgot about that and only deleted the campaigns (which contained the ads). I guess this could be the reason for banning my account, no matter how stupid this is.

    So now I want to get back on Adwords again.
    Obviously, Option A is to email Adwords again, but due the their last uncooperative email response I'm afraid that they had already doomed this account. also, even if they reactivate the account, it would probably be moderated and subject to more scrutiny due to its history.

    So Option B is to open a New account.
    I've read here some post where someone suggested another guy who got banned, to simply "buy an account" from a reputable seller. I really don't understand how this works - even if one buys such an account, he would have to change the billing details into his own, and then google could link it to the banned account. linking would probably happen as well if he sets a similar campaign once again.

    Therefore I'll might as well open an account on my own right?
    But what are the measurments that I need to take care of in order to avoid detection by Adwords that would link me to my previous account?

    The first thing would be my entity - in order to assign an entity of a company with its own credit card, I'll need to register a company, pay a yearly toll, and open a seperate bank account; obviouslly this measure is too drastic at least in my current stage where I don't even know what would be my success level with today's Adwords.

    So If I sign up with my own entity - what would I need to do?
    Here's my checklist and thoughts, please tell me if anything is missing:

    1. Order a new Credit Card from my bank.
    2. Should the name on the credit card match my adwords name?
    I can probably have my credit company issue my a credit card under a name that is slightly different than my name on adwords' records - should I take such measure?
    3. Should the address associated with the credit card (I don't know if google have access to it when they charge me) match my adwords address? I can probably change the address of my CC to a new one (new street name, street number, zipcode), and fill it as my address on Adwords as well.
    4. Fill another phone number.
    5. Domain name - I would register a new domain, under a new name, and mask it with some domain masking service.
    6. Hosting - I would host my website on another webhost than the previous; should it be a dedicated IP?
    7. Computer - I have a new PC which was never used to log into any adwords account (but it was used to log into a gmail account, that received all the above correspondence with Adwords, since the previous Adwords account was set to forward all emails to this account)
    8. My IP - my IP is probably a bit different than what it was 2 years ago, should I ask my ISP to change it?

    I would appreciate any help and comments, thanks!
     
  2. OnlineA

    OnlineA Regular Member

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    No matter what you do, google will know its you. New identity won't work. To make it more clear...if you give up your citizenship, fly to a different part of the planet, get a new name, new passport, new credit card and a plastic surgery to change your face, google will still know its you.
     
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  3. ruger999

    ruger999 Newbie

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    come on, I'm sure it's possible - just need a tip from experienced users on how to do it right, as I don't have too many chances for doing this all-over if it fails.
     
  4. OnlineA

    OnlineA Regular Member

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    Trust me, when I say that its not possible. You may ask google to unban your account, but to fool them with a new identity, longterm its not possible. Google is not just a search engine, they know more about you than your government, about every move of yours, not joking.
     
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  5. OnlineA

    OnlineA Regular Member

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    Google is not just google.com, they own so many websites and companies, you don't even know you log in to something they own, but they "see" you.
     
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    "AWESOME" , yes agree, MAMA G will/know/find you either way, may I suggest you to admit that you simply forgot by mistake coz of real life probs,blablabla think in the meantime work for sure other people in that case, just give them something to read like you started above!! give them a good long believable story,make it interesting so much that they have to admit in the end they screwed up too :)
     
  7. ruger999

    ruger999 Newbie

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    so no one in the history of mankind had ever reopened an account (for the long term) after getting banned? :|
     
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    What you can do is open a company and open an account under that company's name - it's 100% legit and legal. Other than that, you can try your spouse's name or a close relative's name. All legit ways.

    Has anyone recovered a permanent ban in adwords? Not that I know of.
     
  9. milke_sj

    milke_sj Junior Member

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    DUDE i got like 8 adwords accounts, and when i need new ones after banned i create new ones.

    just use business name's or family members.

    Please don't say its impossible nothing is impossible ppl.
     
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  10. ruger999

    ruger999 Newbie

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    Yeah I had mentioned this option in my post, but I've also mentioned that at least in my country, opening a company involves paying a yearly toll, handing over yearly reports, opening a new bank account, this is a lot of mess that i'd rather avoid as i don't even know if I would make any profit from adwords these days.

    I can change the name on my credit card and spell it in another way, could that work?
    I can't use another person's name as this would require using his credit card and bank account, it wouldn't make sense that I'll have the freedom to make transactions of thousands of dollars monthly in another person's account, unless i'm missing something here.
    besides, even If i use a company name or a relative, I already read here at least one post that said that adwords still made the link and banned it.
     
  11. ruger999

    ruger999 Newbie

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    why do u get banned each time? because you keep violating their TOS so the ban is up to you, or does adwords catches up and link your account back to the banned ones?

    I just want to have one permanent active account that would hopefully comply with their TOS from now on, something stable I can rely on.
     
  12. OnlineA

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    We are not talking short-term. Of course its easy to open a new account...the question is if it stays live. Since yours are getting banned, you only prove my point. The only long-term solution is to ask google to unban a person, which sometimes works sometimes doesn't.
     
  13. Barrage

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    If starting a company, wouldnt google be banning you since you are the main person standing for company? Or they dont care about person authorizing it?
     
  14. milke_sj

    milke_sj Junior Member

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    i had them for 2 years, i violated there tos and still do. if i get banned every 2-3 years I'm happy.
    if your doing blackhat you have to pay the price. but the price out ways consequences for me.
     
  15. ruger999

    ruger999 Newbie

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    Can you elaborate on how to open a new account without having adwords link it back to you? (for example, even if you open an account under a relative's name, they could still link you if you use the same computer-related attributes like IP, cookies, maybe even the PC's username, right?)
     
  16. Seven G

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    Hi,

    Getting back to Google with an apology and assuming they will re-instate will be a waste of time..I have never seen any permanent suspended account reinstated however for a satisfaction you can give it a try..if it's still not working go to option B

    1. Order a new Credit Card / Debit Card from your bank which should have a new name and address.
    2. The Billing Address on your card and adwords account should be new which should match.
    3. Get a new domain / toll free and hosting
    4. Contents should not be copied
    5. New PC which should have never been used to open any adowrds account or gmail
    6. Get a new IP
    7. Do not copy your old ads or keywords from old account
    8. DNS for domain can either be masked or update the same address use for adwords and CC
    9. It is not important that you should use Gmail for Google Adwords try and use other email providers.

    If you are from USA/Canada then get a DBA registered which will cost around $35
     
  17. ruger999

    ruger999 Newbie

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    thanks for the reply, I'm not from the US/Canada, don't know what DBA is...

    I can probably do everything you had mentioned except one thing -
    "New PC which was never used to open a gmail account" -
    In my current PC I had never accessed a google account that had an adwords account, but I do access a gmail account on a daily basis.
    actually, all the emails that my former adwords accounts received, were forwarded to this gmail account. can this really screw everything up?
     
  18. AlreadyBanned

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    Exactly brother. they use D-Wave's supposed quantum computers now a days from NASA which are used to find Alien worlds out there in the space! And no wonder they can't find a person trying to get back on Google!!!
     
  19. Seven G

    Seven G Newbie

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    You must be putting too much of efforts in order to opt for Option B...hence my suggestion will be to get a new PC as well.