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Get arrested for embeding YouTube Videos?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by DebtFreeMe, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. DebtFreeMe

    DebtFreeMe Regular Member

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    Well it looks like the nanny state is taking a little step farther into the internet; the Senate is looking at a bill # S. 978 that could make it illegal for web sites to embed videos on their sites that have copyrighted material in them.

    And if they do, and more then 10 people view that video on your site, you could face fines or jail...

    read all about it here: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...ut-people-jail-embedding-youtube-videos.shtml

    Hope and change, just what the doctor ordered...
     
  2. englandrm

    englandrm Senior Member

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    Wow, that's crazy. I could have sworn the youtube had something in their TOS preventing this sort of thing from happening. That's why they give the option of allowing embedding.
     
  3. 5VM5UN6

    5VM5UN6 Registered Member

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    We all already know, that the big G knows everything about whats going on the internet, your emails, who you talk to online, what sites you visit and etc.
    Lets say you're webmaster, you make some video by yourself, upload it to youtube and then embed on your websites. Lets also note that you like to post bad things about the G. The G can delete your video from YT (it's owned by the G, remember ?) and redirect the video id to another one, protected by copyrights and uploaded by some VEVO.
    As of this bill, you would be eligible for 5 years, because embedded video on your website is copyright infridgement, isn't it so?

    Ok, this might sound a little bit like conspiracy, but just try to think what can happen when all power is within single pair of hands.
     
  4. zengetsu

    zengetsu Regular Member

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    ^^I am actually for certain they do, just another way of the government trying to control EVERYTHING....probably will not get passed so I would not worry.
     
  5. h1tman

    h1tman Junior Member

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    who cares? Make money, forget other people that is there stupity and be like sheep - be a wolf and get that dollar or pounds or whatever currency you desire even rmb will do as long as its a currency :D
     
  6. gazoo9224

    gazoo9224 Newbie

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    as long as you mention the source and ownership of a video then there would not be a copyright problem. right? put a small font at the bottom of your post.
     
  7. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    I don't think that's real...

    At present, US law states that the host is not responsible for material uploaded by users. Embedding is really just like making a hyper link. It's the uploader's fault if it's copyrighted.

    Google may be against dup. content blah, blah, blah... but, they damn sure don't mind harvesting all of our websites images without permission, allowing people to upload pirated content and only do something about it with a DMCA, how much money does Google make from content farms... millions? billions?

    Combined, Google is the largest copyright thief in the world.

    Who said they could use our meta descriptions? Google has also gotten in trouble for digitizing copyright books before. Everything is cool so long as they turn a buck from it but, anytime someone else trys it's a problem.

    If the government really wanted to stop piracy just pass a law that says Google cannot display results for nulled, hacked, cracked software, etc.
     
  8. gazoo9224

    gazoo9224 Newbie

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    off course the primary copyright responsibility is for the uploader.
    but providing that the uploader is the the owner then mentioning that they are the owner when you embed should be enough to obey copyright law.
    correct me if i am wrong about this.
     
  9. zebrahat

    zebrahat Elite Member

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    It's so absurd. By reason of the very structure of a YouTube video (short duration, open comments section, ability to annotate with critical notes, parody, etc) the video site by nature is a Fair Use medium. Whether uploaded directly or embedded to a site, there should be no copyright issues AT ALL with the posting of video clips or audio tracks in that fair use context.

    YouTube built up its massive audience based precisely on being such a glorious new defacto platform for the public domain (at last, a place to see music vids MTV won't air anymore, et al), but now G and G (Google and government) are seizing the goods to protect their corporate toadies. Criminalizing embedding? What next, will it be doling out jail time for even viewing a video? Or for blocking out the VEVO ads with a plugin?
     
  10. LukaB

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    Don't believe it, then why does YT have the embed feature?