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Get a ****ing job.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by izm, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. izm

    izm Regular Member

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    This should be in the Blackhat Methods because it's seems like it's a damn secret.

    Just off my 2million thread, I got people PMing me, to show them how to make money? LOL. Even if I did that, I'd be stupid, not because I'd be outing myself and creating competition, trust me, a newbie cannot be my competition, cause even if they did make some money, once that thing is over, they're setting themselves up for a bigger failure coming down from bit a success.

    And we all know a "hasbeen", is worse than someone who never had shit. Just saying.

    So, my advice to anyone who's just starting out, look I don't care how much money you got, unless you're making money from the internet, do yourself a favor and get a job, first thing, because if you truly want to build a business and actual future online, you have to do the ground work, and that's not obtainable if you counting how many more months of rent you can pay, etc. (not saying quit trying to make shit work online, I'm just saying have a job so you don't starve on your computer)

    And trust me, (example) spamming CL isn't the future, only strong survive in this, you can have a great run, and I seen it over and over again, once that dries up you're actually worse off than you been at the beginning.
     
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  2. bertbaby

    bertbaby Elite Member

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    Gee, are you saying the those IM gurus who say you can make a gadzillion dollars in a few days are bogus? ;)

    Sadly, some have to be told this!
     
  3. pasdoy

    pasdoy Power Member

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    getting a job is sooooooo easy lol.
    im 17 at the university in informatic and I work at the government here making more than I ever did in IM lol
     
  4. izm

    izm Regular Member

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    Actually no, getting a job isn't easy at all, one that's worth something anyway, but it's a job nevertheless, specially in today's economy, what I said applies in any walk of life anyway, not just internet, you know how many people I know that had a good job, great life, then lost it. Same way you should hold on to your job, you shouldn't totally put your whole future on it.
     
  5. pasdoy

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    honestly I do not agree at all. I think that if you are good at your job and do what you have to do you will always have a job and won't get ride of you for any reason. You only have to be vreative and show that the company needs you :) there is pretty much a ton of ways to do it. This is why I have the same job for over a year, with all the benefit from it (health care, parent insurance (which i dont have access lol), etc)

    So yeah, its very easy to get and keep a job.
     
  6. trex191

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    Getting a job is easy, life is easy. Well... It depends where you live at. Even in today's economy I still see it is easy to get a job. People that can not find jobs are just not willing to work at a lower wage and growing from it again. There is still a lot of money out there to be made. We are not starving and suffering yet. :)
     
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  7. Bill Gates

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    Not true for everybody and one heck of a sweeping generalization.

    I work with people that WANT to get a job and these people are from all levels of business across different industries, so I'm sure they'd like to hear your formula.

    I voluntarily give time in community groups and job clubs here i the midwest and I can tell you that getting a job is not easy.

    BG
     
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    Jeffrey3773 Newbie

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    Ya know....in defense of those just starting out! I am sooooo friggin tired of listening to the "EXPERTS" on here that spend all their time talking down to everyone around them. You should be ****ing flattered that people want to pick your brain, you've obviously done something right that caught their attention....b/c it CERTAINLY had NOTHING to do with your social skills!

    Just saying!
     
  9. shudogg

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    I could be wrong, but maybe this is similar to what he is meaning.

    I hear it all the time. I have people come to me asking for help, and they don't really have the money to pay me or spend on anything for a startup or investment. Basically it is someone who has been trying for at least a little while to make money online. They are broke, and desperately want to make it work. They seriously need to just go and get a real job in the real world for at least a while until they get things rolling with their online business. Do IM part time on the side. Instead they keep treading on day after day broke as hell not making $300/mo online... and they still refuse to get a job. And they ask me, "what do I do?". My answer, get a job.
     
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    22% are unemployed in the US.Everwhere are popping up ads make quick money on the internet so people begin to belive in it as they have no other choice.
    We all know most of them are getting rapped.
    I'm truely happy if someone asks me for help from himself but most people are asking to do their work so they just need to cash in.Even if i would setup a method for somebody after 3 months he would be again pm'ing me asking for help as the method stopped working and he never learned to find his own methods and spin.
     
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    I don't necessarily see it as talking down, they are just being very direct with their insight. What the OP speaks of is pretty dead on. Very few people can maintain a sustained income off of IM... especially those who are starting out.

    You can make a quick buck by day trading the stock market or forex only to lose everything you have a week later. True wealth comes from long term investments and building your capital over time.

    Internet marketing is very similar to this. Anyone who dedicates themselves to this trade can get lucky and make a quick buck, but those who have a profitable long term goal and build for this have the best chance at succeeding. This of course assumes that you have pro-caliber skills and a great road map for the aforementioned successful idea. Until you reach that point of success, it is extremely important that you have a main job to support yourself... otherwise you're just setting yourself up to max out your credit cards.
     
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  12. greentitanium

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    this is ridiculous. about like saying making money online is easy.
    try moving to detroit and finding a job.
    the "reported" unemployment rate is 10%+
    they say that the actually number is AT LEAST TWICE that.

    if you bothered to watch the news, you will see about nightly someone
    who has a masters degree that hasnt been able to find work, losing everything they have, and willing to wash toilets for min. wage AND THEY CANT EVEN GET THOSE JOBS.

    a lot of people are turning to IM out of desperation, not to get rich.

    min wage isnt proportionate to the cost of living as it once was (close).
    do you realize how much money people bring home

    Do you know what a single person making min wake brings home every week??? 230.00 bucks
    and there are people who would kill for that job
     
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  13. consciousnesscreates

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    Pardon me but I have been looking for a job for past eight months
    This town is not that good for jobs in UK and when your in debt you cannot go far on the bus with your dole stretching two weeks ad at a fiver ticket a time.

    I have been for the jobs came up but its other people sometimes actually half the time.

    I emailed my CV for a general job as I dont have qualifications should have not messed around at school, and I visited this place down the road for this 25 hour general job I have 12 years experience in, I said hello to the secretary blah blah and she said OK I will give the manager your name and guess what?

    Not a fu kin dicky bird from him.

    See its not just you sometimes and another thing blokes see girls they think I will hire that pussy as I might have a chance of bangin in her see so I guess I will have to dress up in a skirt for next couple interviews. OF course its same for women you could have brain surgeon super degree but if they dont fancy ya you got no chance.
     
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  14. izm

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    Look man, while I admit, I never had a job, so it's definitely not an area of expertise, I can tell you I started 20 new campaigns last week. Mind you, I'm good, I don't have to do shit, so it's not desperation thing. Mind you, each of them had many revisions, so I'm not just starting shit for sake of doing that. I'd say same thing applies to anything you do. It's a ****ing recession for everyone, weather you're a billionaire or a nobody, if you're not stepping your game up right now, you're getting left behind.

    Yeah you got bitches who get paid just to have sex, but do you want to be that? That's what I'm thinking right now, that's my mind state, if someone's just giving me shit, I don't want it, but if I deserve it I'm taking it.

    Ok like this, **** money, you think money will do anything for you? **** money. money isn't shit. it's what you know that matters. if you know the right thing, the money's right there, like, stop putting money on the pedestal.
     
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    Has anyone been successful starting without ANY startup money? BS jobs are great for startup cash, so is starting a service based business.
     
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    IM, aka, WORKING FOR YOURSELF, *is* a job. I don't get where you're coming from at all. A "regular job" is only as good as the company you're working for, who's to say they won't fold tomorrow? That's all up to the president of the company, who is working for himself. Thinking that you need to be on a timed schedule and fed a paycheck like some kind of cattle is ridiculous. Work for yourself.

    I'm not sure what your definition of successful is, but I've supported myself and my family (mostly comfortably) for the past three years from IM and I started with less than nothing. I still spend very little each month for what I make.
     
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    Right, great job advice from the guy with the phantom 2 million and doesn't know what to do with it.
     
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    Singingsleep, if everyone is working for themselves, who are will be our future customers?

    Where will our employees come from?

    Who will buy our products?

    Truth is, we NEED regular folks out there. They ARE the life blood of the economy!

    I, for one, appreciate people like that.

    We are all connected, and there is NOTHING wrong with getting a job if you have to.
     
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  19. izm

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    What are you talking about? Just because I work for myself doesn't mean I'm a farmer who grows his own damn food. (who would also need to buy stuff from other people.)If anything I'm stimulating the economy cause I spend so much more money than the average person. While, "working for myself", which is totally shit cause nobody's working for themselves, you're always providing something to someone else, and in a sense everybody is working for themselves because who else you do it for? Hello, we are our own customers, even the community like BHW has it's own economy because everybody does something different. (for most part).

    Having a job is great on many levels, you're more secure than being without one, you actually have schedule to follow and the job keeps you motivated, trust me it's alot easier to follow what someone else says, self discipline is very hard to come by. This is absolutely not speaking to ones who found their success, and make comfortable living, this is for the ones who literally can't pay their rent off online income.

    I find my employees a lot more efficient when the job is performance based, "regular jobs", are never that, freelancers do more because they are their own brand and the company. (the ones that care anyway). I don't care bout "cheap labor", it ends up costing more than paying the premium, every time. Thinking there must be "regular" folk is wrong, I mean think about it before this past century, people did not have jobs in the sense where they directly work for someone.

    What is "regular" folk anyway. What defines "regular". Something like average I suppose, which is always defined but you never see it. It's a whole another subject on it's own but I'm reading a book on it and it does make me think.
     
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  20. gb5000

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    Izm, I think your misunderstanding my statements.

    But to answer your question

    "Regular", "normal", or "average" could be defined as typical or common.

    For instance, more people in THIS and MOST other country work under someone else. Meaning 9 out of 10 people are getting their paycheck from someone else that involves direct labor through another company.

    8 out of ten of those people have to leave thier houses to perform this "labor", and maybe 7 out of ten do so in the mourning hours "hence, rush hour"

    Average or normal creates the society that we live in today. It also provides a ready work force for "entrepreneurs" who add value to said society.

    It all one big circle.

    Does that answer your question?