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German PBN

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by JustTraffic, Oct 1, 2016.

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  1. JustTraffic

    JustTraffic Newbie

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    Hello BlackHatWorld!

    After lots of reading I want to build a german pbn, because germany is my market. The problem is that when i go to expireddomains.net i only get shit .de-domains. The filters I use are:

    DA 15+
    PA 18+
    BL 20+

    Is there anybody who can say me where i can get decent german domains? info/org/com etc. would be also ok if the previous content was in german.
     
  2. starki

    starki Power Member

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    Hard to get good .de domains, it's one of the toughest markets with loads of people with decent knowledge about PBNs. While expireds with previous content in the same language or even niche are nice, it's not a must have. Repurposing english language expireds and using german content on them isn't a problem at all, at the end of the day it boils down to power only.
     
  3. JustTraffic

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    Isn't there a problem when Google does a manuel review on my PBN pages? For example when the page was about New York and now i am writing news in german?
     
  4. BlackBDO

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    Hi mate, I call myself a PBN expert, and I can tell you that you will not get good domains searching on expireddomains (but maybe that's just my experience). I am also building a PBN with high metrics (higher than you, I go for TF20-30 and RD20-40+) and I spend $1-300 for my domains... It depends how much you want to invest in your PBN. If you want quality, it's going to be expensive, like... really expensive.

    Ofc it's a problem if they do manual review, because if your website is an obvius PBN you will lose it. when you talk about PBNs quality is what you are looking for.
     
  5. JustTraffic

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    That are awesome metrics! I would pay 1-150$ for a decent domain with previous german content. But i looked around the web and didn't found a site where I can buy good german domains. One option for me is to go for starki's route. Or do you now on where i can get german domains with good metrics?

    Another thing i have tought of:
    TIER 1
    Would it be possible to create new german domains treat like it wold be a PBN site (write high quality articles, pictures, etc.). Like 5-10 domains.
    TIER2
    Create a lot of Web 2.0 also high quality
    TIER3
    Pump the Web 2.0s with spam.

    This of course would have lower power then a PBN, but would it bring in a decent result? Or is it not useful at all?

    If possible i want to use a REAL PBN.
     
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  6. nimdekvan

    nimdekvan Junior Member

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    I'm also now in search for a good .de domains, just found out around 2-3 domains after running domain hunter gatherer for full 1 week.
    Most of the time the matrics look good but then it's just a spammed one.
    Never know that Germany has a lot of PBN expert, damn I thought it would be easy money.

    Oh btw, I just registered .de domain for the first time all registrar said very clearly you need to be a resident in germany or something.... I faked it though, don't know if it would have any problem.
     
  7. JustTraffic

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    I dont think you will have problems. Yesterday i looked for hours through deleted german domains on expireddomains and the ones with the highest metrics were already registered by some guys who use them as fakeshops to do some creditcard fraud! Not only the last ones, they do this all the time.

    Thats such a fucking joke!

    But even these domains had very bad metrics and a low backlink profile if you compare them to english PBN domains. Is there no one from germany or the german market here on BHW who can share some PBN tipps?
     
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    sent you a PM :D
     
  9. IMGabriel

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    try scraping for dead domains on german sites
     
  10. Balkonangler

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    german domains dont have such gut metrics like engl. iam german too with only market in german and iam taking .com .net and .org domains
    have some good expired german pbn but german ist hard, must be almost all handwritten cause my german spinner sux and german grammer is hell.
     
  11. knarz

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    How do you deal with the Impressum on your German money sites? If Google finds a PBN linked to 1 single site they could easily penalize ALL of them, right? I doubt an image instead of a written Impressum is enough to prevent this.
     
  12. ThopHayt

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    I'd avoid .com/info/org and just focus on .de domains.

    And frankly I'd look into scraping them yourself or hiring out a freelancer to scrape them. Just go on the freelancer section here and say 'hey I'll pay for one of you to scrape me a list of 25 .de domains with XYZ metrics or better." and I bet your inbox will be full.

    -ThopHayt
     
  13. JustTraffic

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    I have not bought Scrapebox until now. Is this the best tool for that or is there a better one?

    Just use fake Names.

     
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    I´m scraping and selling (not on bhw) expired domains and in my experience finding decent .de is much harder than finding .com domains.
     
  15. JustTraffic

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    But have the .com domains german content?
     
  16. knarz

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    I do it for all of my PBN sites. But the money sites require real names because Amazon checks it.
     
  17. JustTraffic

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    Images are enough. You have to be creative. I now a german moneysite which is on the first three serps for a keyword with 300.000 searches p/m. I am sure he uses PBNs but he doesn't use a .de domain and changes his imprint sometimes. Don't know how that goes with amazon but the site is still working. His imprint is a image.
     
  18. Stufferizer

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    I would go for aged .de with medium or even low metrics. DA 20-25 is totally sufficient for german sites.
    You can easily enhance the metrics by some mild SEO.
     
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    Hit me up, I may help you out with this. Depending on the metrics of course. :)
     
  20. Smike18

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    Hey do you wont to share the cost then contact me.