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geolocation problem generated by Google?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by aladin, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. aladin

    aladin Junior Member

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    Hy to all.
    My probleme is the following.

    I have 2 sites ( shoping sites) for my bussines. ( i live in Romania and I have the server IP on Romania , on a local provider.)
    My sites names are exactly as my keywords I want to rank on google..(one on .com and one on .net)

    Problem.
    yahoo list me with one site on the 4 th position on the first page and with the other site on the 8 position on the first page ( so both are listed ok)

    Google do NOT list me anywere. I am indexed ( about 60 pages each site) but I canot find me. I sustain my sites with about 7-10 free blogs ( IPs all over the worlD) with unique and very good articles ( medical problems, writed by me, I am a doctor)

    My target for my shops is mainly Europe (is the place where i can deliver my products) english language for my sites.

    SO there is a geolocation filtering by my Romanian IP released by Google?
    I know that Yahoo dos nou count the IP location.
    Where i have to move my server provider in order to be well listed on google searches..( inside Europe and on google .com) ?
    My sites are UP and indexed for about 6 months. Yahoo in about 1 month put them on the first page , but google is rude with them.
    in the Google web master tools I have the sites not asigned to no one country..because i want to target not only to one specified country..but to a wider area..

    Best regards
     
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  2. blackheader

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    Hey Aladin.

    Please use this tool in order to check your ranking-position on google for your keyword: http://www.iwebtool.com/search_engine_position

    If you can´t find yourself with this tool, then please make a search-inquiry on google like: inurl:"www.yourhomepageblabla[dot]com". If your site doesn´t get listed once you searched the above your site might have been de-indexed or sandboxed.

    I think I might have found the reason for this: Your write "I sustain my sites with about 7-10 free blogs with unique ... articles." --> what exactly does that mean? Do you copy and paste these articles into your site? --> This could cause a de-indexing by google due to duplicate content.

    I don´t think that there is a geolocation filter by google for romanian IP´s. Google wants to provide its users THE BEST results for their searches. It wouldn´t matter if these results came from a american IP, european IP or romanian IP.
     
  3. aladin

    aladin Junior Member

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    Thanks,

    I searched and " No positions found."
    But I have about 60 links indexed in google.

    The articles..: well I am a doctor and I have some ORIGINAL articles and works writed by me.
    Also i have some english books. I scaned, converted ( OCR ) and I have unique text. I serched with various duplicated text content and my articles are unique.
     
  4. *zap*

    *zap* Regular Member

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    Thats is not 100 percent correct as google geo filters are world wide search results will change depending on the IP address of the of the user doing the search, so if you search your keywords on a Romanian IP results will be different from a user doing the same search on a USA IP, because you hit different data centers It would take time and a lot of work to rank worldwide, so many factors to consider with the limited the information
     
  5. aladin

    aladin Junior Member

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    very good information...ZAP.
    I still have the problem...on Yahoo I am with both sites on the first page and on the Google i do not find them ( but I am indexed)
    any sugestions? I will inproove the situation is I will change the IP for my sites. ( moving my sites location from Romania to .....US?)
     
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  6. aladin

    aladin Junior Member

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    any opinions? I need more information and I do not find on net..
     
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    Bad move i think your target market is Europe not the USA I would of gone for Germany as that?s more central

    I would of also made your whois and contact details return all details as Germany not Ro then forward the contact email ect to your Ro address

    Then support that with blog posts from Spain France and Italian IP addresses mix in some article directory post from them countries IPs and so on
     
  8. aladin

    aladin Junior Member

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    ouch ZAP,
    you make me scared..by the SEO.
    I make seo by 3 years with great succes in Romania. I have ALL first google.ro page occupied by my sites with my products. BUT i canot succed outside my country. What you tell me is very technical for me.
    I do have about 15 ( satellites) free blogs with IP s all over the world. with articles and links to my sites. You told me that I HAVE to post also FROM ITALIAN IP? in oder to get relevance for ..italy ? and so on?Maibe I have to post in italian languege ? or not?
    Brrr.. I will try.

    also I canot understand how to change my whois and contact details. Google realy cares about that? Or is more simplier to move my host provider on Germany?
    Thank you ..

    LATER EDIT I am preparing for 1 affiliate site with amazon.COM products. I MUST have the IP in USA?? or not? This question is related to the main question of the post. I think you give a big importance to the IP location in the SEO. wright?
     
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  9. rever20

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    I actually have the same problem. I can't rank my blogs anywhere near the top 10 pages. Even after backlinking them for 3 months and with keywords that are being searched for like 120/month.... Ezine articles worked, but those suck..

    I don't know what can cause the problem. I use GoDaddy hosting so I can't believe that it's wrong.

    I am from Hungary btw.
     
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    No positions found that means either you are not indexed in Google or there is banhammer... Try to get included in search result again by using webmaster... Also check your robots.txt and sitemap... You can use free validation tool to do that...

    If you are using some one's work or book then don't forget to credit them, even then don't paste whole books on site... Google may bring copyright issue and that can bring ban penalty...

    I am not sure what's issue with your site, we can only guess possible problem and solution... Try it might work for you...


     
  11. aladin

    aladin Junior Member

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    I am indexed by the google. abou 70 pag /site
    Day by day the number of pages is increasing..
    Also as I said in previous post ..I rank on the 2nd and 4th position on Yahoo.
    The english books I use are not on the google. I searched excerpts from them, also I used special tools.Are very rare books..

    I ask again about the importance of the geolocation for the IP..Is it important for Google??
     
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  12. funnyday

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    geolocation has some influence, but not so big.it can change your position in the SERP,but can never throw you out.
    you can try other google domain such as google.de google.br.try to find the geolocation's influence