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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by kmaster, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. kmaster

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    Hi Folks

    I made over 100 domains in Germany. 70 of them now after typing site:mydomain.de disappear.

    All were on wordpress/small amount of posts 5-10/didnt do any extra linking.

    The domains looked really nice. The only way those domains could disappear was due to Panda. Content was scraped/mix/translate and as i see now might duplicate from my other domains. Is it possible that Panda would get those domains from google or must it be manual penalty?

    And second one (bigger project) got the same from 10/11 of November - just disappear from G in this project they were 100 domains interlink with each other - in my opinion it my also be content related.

    Have anyone see some movement on 10/11 November?

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  2. RightFootFanatic

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    From what I understood, interlinking PBN domains is a bad idea.
     
  3. kmaster

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    Its bad idea cause when You get caught all domains from this project gets caught :)

    But why those 70 domains (not interlink) got deindex?
     
  4. bartosimpsonio

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    You left some clear footprints. They don't usually ban all domains like that, but they discount the link value without you knowing....banning them all means they wanted to give you to know.
     
  5. kmaster

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    I dont think its the problem cause i didnt leave any footprint. As i mentioned this 100 domains which 70 got deindexed are nice looking domains not some spam. I have just setup webmaster for four of them, maybe that will tell me something :)
     
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    You did a terrible job mate, sorry.

    Spun content, duplicate content, etc etc. That's a huge NO. How many outbound links had those PBN sites of yours? Were all of them linking to same sites? That's another huge footprint.

    And interlinking PBN domains... that's the first rule of PBNs. NEVER interlink PBN domains. You made terrible footprints there and I am sure that there are few more that you haven't even mentioned.

    You gave Google 5 times more than it needed to take down your network. You cut corners and this is the result. You have learned the hard way my friend.
     
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    ^this.

    Furthermore, you didn't give any info on hosting, IP diversity, registrars, privacy settings (which are usually not possible with .de domains by default).

    Going by your description you left at least 5 huge footprints. Kinda surprising that you still have 30 domains left.
     
  8. kmaster

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    Its manual penalty :

    Pure spam
    Pages on this site appear to use aggressive spam techniques such as automatically generated gibberish, cloaking, scraping content from other websites, and/or repeated or egregious violations of Google’s Webmaster Guidelines

    In my opinion it does not matter if You have good quality(not in my case) domains and linking to other domain.
     
  9. Nargil

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    Well I am not talking about my opinion, I am talking about my experience. But feel free to continue working as you have been working until now, you can build another PBN and that one will get raped too. If you have good enough ROI, then by all means.

    And of course it's a manual action. All deindexations are a manual action and that's a default PBN message.
     
  10. kmaster

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    Nargil i read some of Your comments(in other posts), so did you had the same problem?

    I read few posts about "how to make good pbn", which one would You choose as the best?
     
  11. Nargil

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    Yes, it happened to me in the past. I was using the PBN for churn and burn projects, so I was raping the hell out of it. Spun content all the way, linking to all money sites as well etc. The only 2 bad things I did there was spun content and linking to all the money sites from all PBN domains. Privacy, fake details, different hosts, different registrars, etc. I had all that. So as you can see, it takes a lot less than you would think for Google to catch up with your PBN and punish it.

    About PBN stuff, I like one from Lightningblitz and I think there was some recent one too. But most of the important stuff should be included here - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/how-to-build-your-own-pbn-a-quick-guide-for-newbies.813358/
     
  12. kmaster

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    Thank U very much Nagril,i have read it some time ago. But from my perspective what i cant agree is that for google matters if that/this domain belongs to U or not. Cause You can have 1000 domains that are well written and somehow interlink with each other(subject). So from what i think (6 yrs in seo) to google matters if the domain have some added value or not. If it does i think they dont track who does it belong to, cause they would have to have a lot of people working just on that. What do You think?
     
  13. Nargil

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    I am not sure what you mean by subject interlinking now. By interlinking is understand, that one domain links to the other by a regular link, not that they are topically connected.

    It would be an unbelievable coincidence that you would get 100 domains penalized at the same time and each one of them individually. That's simply impossible. They were connected in some way and got hit because of that. And yes, google has many people working just on this. Searching web and finding PBNs and penalizing them. It's a company with almost unlimited resources. They can surely dedicate a team or two to do this monkey work. :)
     
  14. kmaster

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    Those 100 domains where interlniknig in pyramind - small one. Whats strange if it was really manuall cause of pbn all 100 would get hit not just 70.
     
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    They could have missed a few. Or they will get penalized in the upcoming days. And interlinking PBN domains... that's a no no as I said. Really don't do that. There is minimum, if any, benefit in that and the risk is HUGE.
     
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    I think you've placed all those sites in a single Hosting
     
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    The most unspeakable this is that G ban also any web 2.0 blog without even linking and there was unique content in question.
    Because I work for UK,Spain and German market especially there is major changes made from Panda 4.0.This is one so far we read it and my notice.
    if i could i will post full study,i'm just waiting results that Local SEO is all ready dead.
     
  18. kmaster

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    Now Youre talking. I dont think that it would be manually and they would have to change something in Panda so that automaticly they will catch weak content(duplicate). If You can say something more?

    If google would track PBN manually they would have to hire 100k employees at least cause daily there are made 300k domains all over the world.

    Best