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FYI Google is at it again

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by maryowen7002, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. maryowen7002

    maryowen7002 Newbie

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    Do no evil my ass!


    Blogger to customers: Your blog will now run on multiple domains so we can censor it


    The worlds largest blog host by a wide margin, Blogger (or Blogspot.com) has now actively started redirecting visitors to top level country domains (ccTLD?s) based on which country they are in.
    I run a real-time analytics service and we have roughly 700,000 Blogspot customers. At 1AM on January 30th (UTC time) we saw a huge number of new domains appearing on our radar. Most of these were new blogspot domains ending in the .in top level country domain and we saw several others.

    The way this new configuration works is as follows. If you have example.blogspot.com as your blog:

    If visitors arrive from a country in which this is not enabled by Blogger, they will see example.blogspot.com as per usual.
    If visitors arrive from a country that has requested, or may request in future, that Google censor content, the visitor is redirected to example.blogspot.ccTLD, where ccTLD is replaced with a country top level domain. This is example.blogspot.in in India or example.blogspot.com.au in Australia, for example.

    The effect of this is:

    Blog owners are likely to be looking at their blog on a different domain to their visitors. E.g. you will see your blog on example.blogspot.co.nz if you are in New Zealand and your visitors will be visiting your blog using domains like example.blogspot.co.za, example.blogspot.in, example.blogspot.com.au, etc.
    Because your blog now lives on multiple domains, your content is duplicated on the Web. Google claim they deal with this by setting a canonical tag in your HTML content that points to the .com domain so crawlers will not be confused.
    Your visitors are now spread across as many websites as Google has top level country domains for Blogger. Rather than having a single page about bordeaux wines, you instantly have 10 or 20 pages about bordeaux wines, they?re all identical in every way except the URL and your visits are spread evenly across them.

    A URL or Uniform Resource Locator has always been a canonical string that represents the location of a page on the Web. Modifying the worlds largest blog hosting service to break this convention in order to enable Web censorship, by Google no less, leaves me deeply concerned. I can only speculate that either Google is throwing Blogspot under the bus, or Google?s view of their company and its role on the Web has become deeply flawed.
     
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  2. twistedtrick

    twistedtrick Power Member

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    I'm not going to pretend to have a deep enough understanding of the internet to realize the full implications of this, but uh, doesn't seem good...

    Appreciate the news in any case, I run a small site on Blogger with ~1k UVs a day but it's all US Traffic so this shouldn't effect me much I believe.
     
  3. Lebron2727

    Lebron2727 Junior Member

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    thanks for sharing!
     
  4. wisdomkid

    wisdomkid Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Yeah, and the traffic is very very shaky now, you're now force to start ranking the other TLd's which doesn't seems fair.
     
  5. spruitje

    spruitje Junior Member

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    I personally don't give a crap about blogger as I'm not using it. But you are right, g00gle has steadily become more and more arrogant and is bending the rules as they see fit. What most people don't seem to realize is that we are actually handing them this power on a golden platter by tolerating this crap. If enough people were aware of the shit google has been doing they would simply save their files and find another host for their blog. The same goes with google search, show me a good alternative search engine and suddenly all googles algo changes don't mean jack shit anymore..
     
  6. HoNeYBiRD

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    lol, i find it kinda weird, but i've never wondered what does URL stand for, now i know it, thanks :)
     
  7. WhitePassion

    WhitePassion Elite Member

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    Won't really matter for me, although I'm with blogger.
    Custom domain ftw.
     
  8. projectx

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  9. equalizer

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    Wouldn't that bring more visitors and more clicks on adsense ads on those pages?
     
  10. aftershock2020

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    This has been coming down the pipe for a while now and isn't a big deal.

    The easiest solution is to change up and work for your own blog scripts, on your own domains and under your own hosting. If you take control of it, then you don't have to worry about it.

    Keep an open mind, as there are too many other web 2.0/3.0 sites out there to let this disrupt your ventures.
     
  11. tooled

    tooled Registered Member

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    "How big you are the biggest is the fall"

    That's what happened to Altavista, Lycos, Yahoo and MSN. Google hadn't 5% of the market share each of these companies had and look what everything turned out to be.
     
  12. MaxWeber

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    @projectx

    Very personal, and indeed very funny ;)
     
  13. G0D0VERY0U

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    Don't let it freak you out guys, really.

    Here's the deal.

    Google is trying to develop a better methodology & function for local and specific related searches. One of the biggest problems with this is simple: the .com is known across the globe. It's associated with every website, just by virtue of it being a website.

    When you hear '.com' what do you think? Website.

    When a normal person hear's '.in' they DO NOT think website or India.

    That's a problem for Google's search product if it is to follow the direction they are attempting to take it. They must 'break the back' of the .com to a degree.

    Now then... the first step in that is to do it on a product they control and on a world stage. IE - Blogger. Youtube would have presented a lot of little issues, where as blogger was very easy to get working with, and most importantly, to keep working while they play with the system.

    They want to develop the search product DIFFERENTLY then they have in the past 10 years. While they COULD abuse it, there is no major boogie man here.

    I don't trust Google for shit... but you guys have got to see beyond just SEO and look at Google as a company that is in charge of a product line. One of those products is SEARCH. They want to change search.

    The million dollar question.... WHY?

    Their protection and exclusivity to Pagerank is just about over. So they are breaking up pagerank, as once Bing can use it, it's check mate for Google and they know it. MS'es product will be the same as Google's IF Google doesn't make some big changes and I mean, RIGHT NOW.

    Expect a lot more changes to Google's product line. That doesn't mean that there is a demon in the works - so don't make that the first step in logic or you are going to end up not seeing the truth for what it is.

    It's good to be back at BHW after a long, long vacation....
     
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  14. drywallrob

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    Great post. I am going to throw a party when their patent on their search algo is kaput. Everyone and their dog is going to use it. Hopefully they will be humbled like all the other monopolies before them.
     
  15. G0D0VERY0U

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    Well, they've pretty much already removed most of the selective tracking elements of pagerank. I think the sudden and dramatic changes we have seen in PR over the past year are mostly a spoof.

    None the less, depending on the number of metrics your follow, you will notice that PR is right around... not at all important...

    Before anyone get's all bunched up about that HOT PR7 they just bought, sure it still has some value. The most value you will find out of it is when you start doing a Terry Kyle and scamming the living hell out of people by preaching about the greatness of homepage backlinks without much evidence that a PR5 HPBL is of more value than a PR5 inner page backlink.... but none the less...

    I'll take a handful of links that have spider's jumping them regularly over any one 'pr-significant' link that doesn't have a lot of spider movement. This is just another slice of evidence in the case against PR being much more than a vague system of measurement... kinda of like 'how long is this piece of string?'

    Sure PR may answer the question, but in reality, Google couldn't care less about the string to begin with.
     
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  16. equalizer

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    @godoveryou, please answer #9. All this is not clear to me, but I'm concerned because I just started building several Blogger blogs, so I'd appreciate if you can shed some light by answering post #9, thanks.
     
  17. G0D0VERY0U

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    I'm not the OP - I do not defend his position, nor do I speak for or against it.

    That having been said, no. They will not be evenly spread as the search product will become more localized and less universal, certain pages will rank differently or even not at all in certain areas. So, instead of wine.blogspot.com ranking highly everywhere, where visitors then get redirected to localized domains - wine.blogspot.in may not rank at all in India to begin with, and if that's the case then no, the visitor distribution will be the exact opposite of equal. In fact, at least in 100% theory, it would be grossly ' out of balanced ' - and that's the very goal before Google.

    The problem right now is that it is TOO balanced because of the globalization that the .com enjoys.

    At least, that's my opinion. Let the OP speak for himself and don't let this be a substitute for that. I am NOT trying to put words in anyone's mouth. :)
     
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