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Can any of you recommend one of the two reward options? Actually, PRP sounds very interesting for the long run, but I've no experience on how long the average player is gonna play for money or more importantly how many of the players pay more than once. Any tips are appreciated.

Just some clues. FTP is more and more about micro and small stakes. These players tend to roll in with small amounts (I would say USD 10-100), lose it all, reload two to three times and stop playing in a month. But maybe I'm totally wrong, it's just a personal observation.
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Go for the long run. Ive been an affiliate with them for 2 years. I did a major campaign for 1 month and 2yrs later I still am making. Sometimes the player gets a load of cash and bang you get a surprise hes back and playing hard.

Always take the residual option in gaming, you never know when you catch someone who plays a lot and you earn rewards for the life of their playing.

When you choose the lifetime plan, or whatever it's called, as opposed to the CPA plan, and you start at like 20% or w/e it is, that isn't 20% of the players profits or anythings, its actually 20% of the RAKE they generate by playing at the site. Rake is the small percentage the online poker sites from every real money hand/tournament on their sites.

Hope this makes sense. In my opinion this what you should do...

f your traffic are generally bad/new players, promote them to a poker site your signed up to with CPa plan.

If your traffic are allready probably good winning players that will play alot, then the perecentage of the rake they generate can be a very nice income considering yes, it does add up for the entire time that player plays on the site...especially if your signing up volumes of people obviously...MOST people you sign up with the percentage of rake generated option will note yield the total that would hav ebeen yielded from their sign up with the CPA plan. But if you ever get a player in that reaches the high stakes, you will be happy for a very long time...as there is no real cap on how much rake someone could potentially generate based on their bank roll and skill at the game. You must also realize that actually the best poker players will never sign up under someone else bonus code. This is because they know if they sign up through a rakebake site instead, they will actually be paid a percentage of their own rake that they generate, instead of YOU (the advertiser). Once someone has signed up on these poker sites under someones bonus code, they will NEVER be eligible for receiving rakeback payments on the rake they generate....raekback is actually essential to most winning poker players as it keeps their hourly wage up as a bonus payment. This is why I think CPA is actually better to promote as you will be getting paid more money for the bad players, which there are alot more of those than good ones...

Hope this makes sense and helps.

i think revshare is always better than CPA.
some time ago i made a small mailing to a casino program,only 7-8 deposits.About 1200-1300$ with CPA.But this players lost about 60k in serveral month and i made 20+k from that mailing.

Well it seems both of you are pros at it. Me I am not, as i said in my original post I only marketed for a month via email and still making. Last month was down...only $27. but.......but over the long haul.....very nice.
This thing about pros and rakeback.....yes its true but I was able to convert to rakeback once i got good. So that part is wrong.
I am more a player now, hit me up if you need a list. I got almost 2m poker players current.

I actually used to play poker, very well - until TILT kicked in where I thought "f**K it" and started playing really crappy hands and lost a LOT of money.

I have since self-banned myself from poker after having lost $40-50k over about 2 years (nope I couldn't afford it, but what can you do)

I am now full time on internet marketing and with each passing day I am getting closer and closer to providing my family with the life they deserve that I tried to get them through playing online poker.

Why is this relevant to this post?

Because if you have no morals and don't give a flying f**k about the poor sucker who you are referring to play poker through your affiliate link then you will cash in BIG time.

I was the ideal demographic that internet marketers could make a FORTUNE on, and believe me from my experience at the tables and with various contact with their customer support, the number of people self-banning themselves is on the increase for the exact reasons I have mentioned.

Too many people out there (including myself) completely ignore the "best practice" of playing within their limit and deposit hundreds if not THOUSANDS into their account once they think they can "run the tables"...

Get a few of these misled fools signing up through your affiliate link and you will have it made.

Paul.

sickofwhitehat said:

I actually used to play poker, very well - until TILT kicked in where I thought "f**K it" and started playing really crappy hands and lost a LOT of money.

I have since self-banned myself from poker after having lost $40-50k over about 2 years (nope I couldn't afford it, but what can you do)

I am now full time on internet marketing and with each passing day I am getting closer and closer to providing my family with the life they deserve that I tried to get them through playing online poker.

Why is this relevant to this post?

Because if you have no morals and don't give a flying f**k about the poor sucker who you are referring to play poker through your affiliate link then you will cash in BIG time.

I was the ideal demographic that internet marketers could make a FORTUNE on, and believe me from my experience at the tables and with various contact with their customer support, the number of people self-banning themselves is on the increase for the exact reasons I have mentioned.

Too many people out there (including myself) completely ignore the "best practice" of playing within their limit and deposit hundreds if not THOUSANDS into their account once they think they can "run the tables"...

Get a few of these misled fools signing up through your affiliate link and you will have it made.

Paul.

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We're you playing with tracking software like Hold Em Manager, with the HUD turned on? How many tables were you playing at once? Many important factors to NOT lose a bunch of money at poker.

Also the reason you tilted a bunch of money away is because you were playing at stakes that were to high. The way to avoid tilt is to play at levels where a day of losing and you DON'T CARE. It's vicious if you play at stakes where the swings are going to tilt you

bluesbell said:

Just some clues. FTP is more and more about micro and small stakes. These players tend to roll in with small amounts (I would say USD 10-100), lose it all, reload two to three times and stop playing in a month. But maybe I'm totally wrong, it's just a personal observation.
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Wrong.
Good traffic = Never CPA.
Bad Traffic = Never CPA. Why? because they will shut you down within 2 weeks without payment. This is not clickbank, this is the real affiliate world.

Adding that to the fact that it is BY FAR, one of the best 2 poker rooms (in all online poker aspects + that takes US players), it will be 100% idiotic to run a CPA campaign.

I don't know where you pulled that info about the stakes, but it is way, way off.

Bross said:

Wrong.
Good traffic = Never CPA.
Bad Traffic = Never CPA. Why? because they will shut you down within 2 weeks without payment.

REVSHARE.

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Woah woah woah, why do you say you will be shut down in 2 weeks for picking CPA plan. A joke right? Must be...

They will shut your account down if you break their TOS in anyway, regardless of the payment plan

MarketerX said:

Woah woah woah, why do you say you will be shut down in 2 weeks for picking CPA plan. A joke right? Must be...

They will shut your account down if you break their TOS in anyway, regardless of the payment plan

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I wrote - "Bad Traffic = Shut down".
The specifics.

FTP is not a poker room for CPA.. They are professionals, most poker affiliates that promote to the USA do not CPA. It is short lasting and they change their terms every second day. shutting down certain regions for CPA, etc..

Player value is extremely high in FTP & pokerstars (Reason why Pokerstars didn't even have a % plan until recently).

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We're you playing with tracking software like Hold Em Manager, with the HUD turned on? How many tables were you playing at once? Many important factors to NOT lose a bunch of money at poker...

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At the end of the day I came to the conclusion I had too much of a "playful" mindset to be any good at poker for any length of time.

Plus I found the lower stakes B O R I N G - lol.

Haven't played for months now, but my best win at the cash tables ($5/$10) was $2972, I had AJ and the other guy had KJ. It was one pair of jacks that won the pot.

Now THAT was a hand lol.

P.

Just sayin'...as I mainly concentrate on Casino, not Poker in particular...but..

Due to recent UIGEA implementation, IMO it's much safer to go with CPA for US affiliates as 'sharing' in gambling profits (ie: rakeback/revshare..) could be construed as aiding and abetting. In the meantime, I'll stick to CPA until the powers that be come to their senses and get rid of the retarded UIGEA regulations.

.....just my 2 cents...

Go with the revshare if you can sign up good players, i know a guy who spent $700 when party poker stopped taking US players he signed up like 1400 people to FTP and has made over $100K from their rake for the past 4 years or so.

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