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FTC Catches Google Skewing Search Results

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by gb, Mar 20, 2015.

  1. gb

    gb Regular Member

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  2. ziplack

    ziplack Supreme Member

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    Google its full of it
    money its all that matter to them
    google its evil as fuk
     
  3. peepin2me

    peepin2me Regular Member

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    Same with The Wall Street Journal. They freakin want me to signup just to read a damn article!

    On a different note, here's a beautiful quote...

    When I was young I thought that money was the most important thing in life; now that I am old I know that it is.

    --Oscar Wilde
     
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    korfx04 Junior Member

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    i really like this part

    "In a lengthy investigation, staffers in the FTC?s bureau of competition found evidence that Google boosted its own services for shopping, travel and local businesses by altering its ranking criteria and ?scraping? content from other sites."
     
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    Not surprised at all.
    I can expect anything from G.

    @op: LOL cant believe they ask me to pay $12 to read an article xD
    Im keeping my $12 so I can buy me a latte in Starbucks :p
     
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    Do this to Google and its considered spam, Google does this to you and its considered profits.
     
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    G caught red-handed being evil, or self-dealing, just as we Google skeptics have always been saying. Google is the biggest black hatter out there.
     
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    fuckin wsj fuck those idiots. I'm not signing up just to read a damn article. Punks.
     
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    For those who wants to read the full article, simply do below search query and click on it. WSJ shows full articles to visitors with referrer from G search.

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    site:www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-u-s-antitrust-probe-of-google-1426793274
     
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    eXampL Power Member

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    Seriously? Wow. Yeah, I wouldn't pay that either, when I read it it didn't ask me to sign up.
     
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    if I owned Google I'd definitely be putting all my own services before anyone elses. forgive my ignorance but why isn't that allowed?
     
  13. BHopkins

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    So let me get this straight...

    Google, a private company, did what was in their own best interest? They tried to make money by beating their competitors even though competitors are allowed to advertise on Google's website?

    "Google's actions resulted in "significant harm" to rivals" - I would hope so!

    Would Walmart allow Target to set up a booth in their store selling the same products for less money?

    Would McDonalds allow Taco Bell to sell food inside their store?

    Why are we surprised that Google will, "use its monopoly power over search to extract the fruits of its rivals' innovations."

    I think the only thing that should concern us is the possible corruption, "An antitrust suit against Google would have pitted Obama administration appointees against one of the White House's closest corporate allies. Google was the second-largest corporate source of campaign donations to President Barack Obama's re-election effort. Google executives have visited the White House scores of times since Mr. Obama has been in office, according to visitor logs."

    More ridiculous quotes, "the FTC report said Google altered it to benefit its own services at the expense of rivals."

    Last one..."a company working toward an overall goal of maintaining its market share by providing the best user experience, while simultaneously engaging in tactics that resulted in harm to many vertical competitors, and likely helped to entrench Google's monopoly power over search and search advertising,"

    Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the primary goal of a business typically to generate a profit for shareholders? In this case, Google is aggressive to defend and increase it's market share, even if that means it's competitors have less. If the FTC doesn't want Google to have a monopoly, they should fund better algorithms for Bing and Yahoo.
     
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    ^ +1

    Don't like it? Use a different search engine!
     
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    Nothing new here folks. Just what happens when you are in bed with the government.
     
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    The FTC quote isn't ridiculous. They were set up to prevent coercive monopolies.
     
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    Regulating monopolies is a stretch. They're reaching to the farthest points of, "Promoting competition, innovation and investment in broadband services and facilities". The internet is not a broadband service and if I were Google, I would question why a commission on regulating communication has their hand in my business.

    http://www.fcc.gov/what-we-do

    In any case, this is hardly a monopoly in my opinion, there are two other search engines that 75% of people can name if you ask them to name a search engine besides Google. Ask people to name a gas station other than Chevron and some people will have trouble. Doesn't mean Chevron has a monopoly on gas stations.
     
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    Google "search engine", you will find this article is nonsense.
     
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    In 2012, the FTC called google a coercive monopoly. If you click on the "coercive monopoly" link in this wiki, how can you say that google doesn't fall under that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission Now the FTC ended their investigation with very little changes. That doesn't mean it's not a coercive monopoly. Google probably buttered some bread. Government is corrupt. Always was and always will be, no matter what party is in office or what country it is.