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Frustrated with shitty sites ranking so high

Discussion in 'Local SEO' started by jon_xx_x, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I've gotten into local SEO about nine months ago. Started working with the top SEO agency here. But also with my own client and now my own websites.

    I don't live in a massive city, so although there is some competition, it's not too crazy, nor is the work done on these sites.

    I've been working on clients site for about six months now. Went from the low hundreds to now in the 30s, which it has sat for a few months and I feel bad charging $1000+ per month and it's not moving. So they're $6k in and in the 30s. To be fair, I should have done even more than I have, but for what I've done, it's barely moving, especially the past few months. I've added tiered 2.0s with unique content, a couple paid links in relevant niches, and two PBNs. It just seems like every time I do something it will jump up 3-5 spots, then a few days later fall back down.

    The frustrating part is that sites under us, 90% of them are absolute shit. Half them look like they were designed ten years ago, poor contact info, poor onsite etc. And to make it worse, you pull them up in ahrefs and they have like 2-5 shitty directory links. Even the top sites only have a handful of quality links, and I'm probably on par with them, if not better. I just don't understand how some of these sites don't do anything and they rank 10-30, while I'm doing a shit load of work just to get on par with them.

    Same goes for another local site I've started for myself. Now this is a brand new domain so I can expect some hold back. But even still, in the sites ranking from 1-20, probably 3/4 of them have under ten links. And the links are shitty directory sites. Like how do these sites just luck out and get to the top of Google with zero work and we struggle to make any movement even with high quality links? Like what possibly in Google's algo is putting some of these sites up with literraly 2-3 links and terrible on page seo. And here we are building citations, quality links, great onpage, etc, just to get in the top 30. I just don't get it. I mean I will continue to work and I will get there eventually, but why am I having to put in 20x the work as these sites?
     
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    I think local seo is different then regular. And only 2 pbns? Make like 30.
     
  3. jon_xx_x

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    They're coming. But my point is why and how are some of these sites ranking that have never touched seo in their lives and have a handful of links. And I may need 30 to get to the same level.
     
  4. luc1fer

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    i have same problem in one niche there is no way to move above 14-15 position.. when i build links the best i can site go up maybe to 9-10 position then drop in 10-15 days where it was.. competition above me look like trash no links or some crap, young domains old just couple months and no keywords in content bad on-page, i thought they have large hidden pbn but i not think so and i just not understand how they rank its frustrating to work on something and you cant learn nothing about it
     
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    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hidden PBNs crossed my mind too, but a) there are simply too many of them and b) their sites and other links are so shitty there is no way there is a hidden PBN.
     
  6. toughboy

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    same happen to me in a movie niche site
     
  7. spider4567

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    2 pbn is too little, you should add to 30 pbn for competitive keyword
     
  8. toughboy

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    It's a movie niche and the ranked sites have da 1 pa 1 and the site I'm using is da 48 pa 56 . I throw 40 Pbn Links and only manage to get in 30th position where as the other sites with 5 - 20 Max backlinks rules on google first page dammit!!!.