Free Tips From A Guru...

Teapen said:

Edit: Also why are the cloakers advertised on BHW not good enough? (Blackjack's script, NoIP, and wpCloaker)

Click to expand...

Not good enough. Where is it posted that they are not good.

I (Actually my partner) have used Blackjack's cloaker to cloak dating, adult games and diet ads, with 100% success. I have been running those ads for past 1 month without any problem. I can vouch for blackjack, and others too (though I have not used them).

mastervit said:

What cloaker works now with facebook ads?
Where to get it?

Click to expand...

If I posted them publicly chances are they would be no good after awhile. The ones that nobody talks about are the best imo.

Benny1232 said:

How many facebook accounts do you run and do you use fake information or actual information for the registration? If you use multiple, how do you get around facebook flagging your account, asking you to submit a drivers license?

Click to expand...

You use agency accounts, one per vps to avoid them from being linked to each other.

MrBeastsOnToast said:

Thank you so much for all your answers so far, your thread came at the right time for me!

Do you know of any alternative ways to verify without creating loads of bank accounts?
Do amex not question why you are creating loads of accounts for fake names? What do you tell them?

Click to expand...

Employee debit cards

Teapen said:

Yeah, I never understood how people dealt with that. It's part of the reason I was so apprehensive to even try FB Ads.

Click to expand...

See above, its very easy to get 20+ cards every week.

Chees said:

sorry for the newbie question but how exactly those cloakers work ? do you cloak just the link ?

Click to expand...

Cloaker shows FB review team one page and your real customers another page.

Final_Solution said:

Your story is really inspirational and you call yourself "Guru" or not that doesn't matter. What matters is you're here for sharing your success and give ideas to everyone what you've done so far.

Click to expand...

Thanks bro.

iwillnbd said:

Did everyone here miss the posts in page 2 !?

I may be wrong, but,
From what i see, the users "Auxiliarus" and "357Smith" (OP) are the same person !

In the following posts, question were asked to "357Smith" but "Auxiliarus" was the one who replied with the answers :

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/facebook/669206-free-tips-guru-post6796203.html#post6796203

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/facebook/669206-free-tips-guru-post6796347.html#post6796347

Notice in the second post where "Auxiliarus" answers a question asked to "357Smith" in which he says " I said it was a joke. "

If they are the same persons, then what is the point of this thread ?
Maybe this post (and the answer that follows the post) may answer that question:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/facebook/669206-free-tips-guru-post6796450.html#post6796450

Again, This is what i think and i may be wrong (though i doubt that)

Click to expand...

Not sure where you got this idea from, Im sure a mod could check into this to make you feel better.

Inception_AC said:

could be a case of paranoia?

Click to expand...

I think so

Trepanated said:

At first I thought you could be right.

But when you look at the general tone of Auxiliarus' posts and Smith's they are completely different.

Smith seems level-headed, calm and helpful.

Auxilirius on the other hand, not so much.

Click to expand...

Thanks bro

MrBeastsOnToast said:

Guys. When an exec vouches for someone your conspiracy theory's about the OP are fucking retarded.

Please don't take this great thread off topic yet again.

Click to expand...

Thanks bro, guess this is the type of stuff I deal with when trying to help others. Then people wonder why nobody wants to help.

Teapen said:

Just to preface, I'm new to FB Ads and anyone who knows can answer this question. What exactly is causing the accounts to eventually get banned?

Click to expand...

Running ads that FB does not approve of such as diet.

Teapen said:

Allow me to elaborate. Once your blacklisted ad is accepted by Facebook because you cloaked it, what then causes the account to be banned? The OP I believe said his accounts last about a month.

Click to expand...

People complain about your ad to FB or your account gets a manual review = ban

IAmNotLegend said:

Still your account can get banned for those blacklisted ads. Approval is only one stage. There can be a manual review on your account too. It's the reason your account can last from few hours to years.

Other reason could be too many disapproved ads.

Click to expand...

Exactly.

clickj4ck said:

Hi i want to start Affiliate marketing again ( i've failed last time), would really appreciate your guide on where to start . e.g.

What network do you use and what are your best selling products?
Do you only use CPA ? Have you ever tried PPC?
Do you have a website ?
Have you ever tried mail marketing ?

Would really appreciate it if you can answer these questions .

Click to expand...

Tons of networks that accept social traffic.

Teapen said:

So I've been looking for the $500 and $2500 cloakers OP talks about in one of his posts and unfortunately I've yet to find any info on them. I figured he specifically gave the prices of them rather than their names to weed out people who are serious from everyone else.

If anyone has any info on said cloaking devices, I'd appreciate it if you could shoot me a pm. I'm itching to give this a try.

Edit: Also why are the cloakers advertised on BHW not good enough? (Blackjack's script, NoIP, and wpCloaker)

Click to expand...

You mentioned one cloaker that is good and what I use, wont say which one lol but you should be able to figure that out rather easily The well known ones are just that, well known... by FB.

IAmNotLegend said:

Not good enough. Where is it posted that they are not good.

I (Actually my partner) have used Blackjack's cloaker to cloak dating, adult games and diet ads, with 100% success. I have been running those ads for past 1 month without any problem. I can vouch for blackjack, and others too (though I have not used them).

Click to expand...

Its possible to use it, however its not as good as the others which are updated every 10 minutes. Also higher bleed rates than the expensive ones.

iwillnbd said:

Did everyone here miss the posts in page 2 !?

I may be wrong, but,
From what i see, the users "Auxiliarus" and "357Smith" (OP) are the same person !

In the following posts, question were asked to "357Smith" but "Auxiliarus" was the one who replied with the answers :

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...6-free-tips-guru-post6796203.html#post6796203

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...6-free-tips-guru-post6796347.html#post6796347

Notice in the second post where "Auxiliarus" answers a question asked to "357Smith" in which he says " I said it was a joke. "

If they are the same persons, then what is the point of this thread ?
Maybe this post (and the answer that follows the post) may answer that question:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/facebook/669206-free-tips-guru-post6796450.html#post6796450


Again, This is what i think and i may be wrong (though i doubt that)

Click to expand...

LOL
Maybe I'm reading too fast, but can anyone explain this away?

357Smith said:

You mentioned one cloaker that is good and what I use, wont say which one lol but you should be able to figure that out rather easily The well known ones are just that, well known... by FB.

Click to expand...

Thank you. That's all I needed.

IAmNotLegend said:

Not good enough. Where is it posted that they are not good.

I (Actually my partner) have used Blackjack's cloaker to cloak dating, adult games and diet ads, with 100% success. I have been running those ads for past 1 month without any problem. I can vouch for blackjack, and others too (though I have not used them).

Click to expand...

My bad. I seemed to have misconstrued one of OP's previous posts.

He wrote: "The one's that nobody talks about are the best"

Which in my head came out as: "The one's people talk about (any cloaker found on BHW) aren't very good"

357Smith said:

Employee debit cards

Click to expand...

One last question before i go and request a ton of cards from my bank and i will leave you alone i promise!

The employee cards will have the same address as each other - is this not a problem?
Have you tried using employee pre paid cards? or are you using normal debit cards?

Thanks again dude.

I just thought of the perfect angle for my campaign that I highly doubt anyone has tried! The only problem is the volume might be a bit low, but I don't think it'll be too big of a problem due to practically no exposure. Time to get to work!

MrBeastsOnToast said:

One last question before i go and request a ton of cards from my bank and i will leave you alone i promise!

The employee cards will have the same address as each other - is this not a problem?
Have you tried using employee pre paid cards? or are you using normal debit cards?

Thanks again dude.

Click to expand...

FB does not do AVS checks. For example on my employee card I can use

Bill Gates
1 Microsoft Way
Microsoft, CA 92158

And it will authorize just fine.

Could you also apply for employee cards as a non-us citizen? I live in Germany and we don't have anything similar here, if I apply for a dozen cards my creditworthiness will move towards zero.

What is your landing page CTR? On average.

durchi said:

Could you also apply for employee cards as a non-us citizen? I live in Germany and we don't have anything similar here, if I apply for a dozen cards my creditworthiness will move towards zero.

Click to expand...

Basically you go to a big bank, setup a corporate account then say you want debit cards for your employees. I can easily get 30-40 cards per month doing this.

mr squirrel said:

What is your landing page CTR? On average.

Click to expand...

25-40% on average with a good ad and fresh lp

this is coming from a guy with no PPC experience.. please bare with me..

1. What is cloaking?
2. How do you monetize? Selling products as affiliate? Linking them to website with CPA Surveys? (or what kind of cpa)
3. How to have higher conversion rate other than finding a unsaturated niche?
4. Do you link them to a fb page or website directly? And what do you offer them?
5. If you had 10 minutes to choose which niche would you choose that you've never done before? (so we get an example of what kind of niches are profitable)

to op,i'm still new in fb ads,here my problem..i always use post page ads,and usually i always target audience more than 1 million(i'm in physical products such gadgets) and always got the people clicks,comment and like my post and close the sales,but lately all my champaing showing reach more than 500k from 1million but still no one click,like or even a comment on my fb page post.can you tell me what the problem?

spectrejoe said:

this is coming from a guy with no PPC experience.. please bare with me..

1. What is cloaking?
2. How do you monetize? Selling products as affiliate? Linking them to website with CPA Surveys? (or what kind of cpa)
3. How to have higher conversion rate other than finding a unsaturated niche?
4. Do you link them to a fb page or website directly? And what do you offer them?
5. If you had 10 minutes to choose which niche would you choose that you've never done before? (so we get an example of what kind of niches are profitable)

Click to expand...

1) Already answered
2) Depends on what you want to do
3) Trial and Error
4) External CPC
5) Diet, Muscle and Skin are most popular and the hardest to do.

terengganu.boy said:

to op,i'm still new in fb ads,here my problem..i always use post page ads,and usually i always target audience more than 1 million(i'm in physical products such gadgets) and always got the people clicks,comment and like my post and close the sales,but lately all my champaing showing reach more than 500k from 1million but still no one click,like or even a comment on my fb page post.can you tell me what the problem?

Click to expand...

Do external cpc ads, hidden page post.
Seems like your ad probably sucks hence no clicks. You need to do something catchy. My audience is around 20-30 million with 2% CTR from FB on average

Here is something I feel is huge...

When promoting stuff such as diet, skin or muscle its very common to get a ton of negative comments on your ads which surely hurts conversions, granted our target sales are people that are super dumb lol. Anyways, you can filter out comments that you dont want automatically, such as filter out comments that say: scam, scammers, fraud, bs, fake, report, liars, droz, fake, they, will, charge, you, again, chargeback, does, not, work ... etc

I'm getting flooded with PMs about cloaking so instead of taking an hour to reply to each Im going to do a quick writeup here...


What is a cloaker?
> Basically software on your server that sends a review team member to one url and everyone else to a different url?

Why use a cloaker?
> To get landing pages live that a review team would not approve.

Why not just change your redirect after approval?
> FB, Adwords, Bing, TrafficVance have caught onto this ages ago, now their software keeps checking your LP to see if its changed so this method doesnt really work.

What Cloaker Works Best?
> I don't want to say it here or in private. The best ones are the ones that nobody talks about and 500 people don't buy, also the good ones cost $500-$2,500 per month.

What makes one cloaker better than the rest? Why pay $2500/mo when others are $30?
> Very common question. A cloaker needs to be updated every 30 minutes. Cheap cloakers do not accurately know what IP the review teams are using today, as they dont use the same ips everyday, actually they often hop on proxies and such to try and get around cloakers. A good cloaker is constantly updated for the ips that are in use right now. Also another HUGE thing, cheap cloakers have a high bleed rate due to false positives, for example on a cheap cloaker it might send 1 in 10 visitors to your "safe" LP which is where you want the reviewers to see, however problem is your losing 10% of your traffic which is a LOT. A good cloaker might have a 2% bleed rate thus making you 10x more than the $2,500/mo cost.

Great thread

Have you given any thought to buying garcinia in bulk and directing your ads to an ecommerce store? Do you think this would be as profitable?

Sure its a bit more leg work to get up and running but more legit and wouldn't have to worry about buying accts, cloaking, etc. Just curious what you think about that. Thanks for all the tips

talkmeow said:

Great thread

Have you given any thought to buying garcinia in bulk and directing your ads to an ecommerce store? Do you think this would be as profitable?

Sure its a bit more leg work to get up and running but more legit and wouldn't have to worry about buying accts, cloaking, etc. Just curious what you think about that. Thanks for all the tips

Click to expand...

Garcinia bottles cost $2.25/each + $4 for drop shipping and the average price is $90/mo recurring. It sounds great, but there is a lot more to it. Chargebacks, customer service, returns, merchant accounts going down daily...etc. Its a HUGE headache. I did the math, Id make an extra $5-$10 per sale but my work load and upfront investment of $60,000+ is simply not worth it. You need about 50 merchant accounts and easily $100,000 to get started.

357Smith said:

FB does not do AVS checks. For example on my employee card I can use

Bill Gates
1 Microsoft Way
Microsoft, CA 92158

And it will authorize just fine.

Click to expand...

Quick question for the OP I was under the impression for FB ads the CC had to be with in a certain radius if the IP example Say Springfield IL ip xxx the credit card has to be from that area or the Zip ion the GEO locaton. Is this not the case from what you see?

mlucas said:

Quick question for the OP I was under the impression for FB ads the CC had to be with in a certain radius if the IP example Say Springfield IL ip xxx the credit card has to be from that area or the Zip ion the GEO locaton. Is this not the case from what you see?

Click to expand...

No that is the case, BUT you can pick a name and address that you want as FB doesnt check. For example if my vps is in Las Vegas, when I add a CC Im going to use a las vegas address and zip code and some fake name even through my CC billing address is in another state... doesnt matter

Replying to subscribe. This thing is pure gold.

Thanks OP for sharing the valuable tips!