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Free scam insurance! Be protected

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by mrblackhat, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. mrblackhat

    mrblackhat Regular Member

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    Hey, i just came up with a great idea to get free insurance against scams. Anyway, it involves ebay. After this, there's no excuse for noobs to bitch about being scammed.

    Anyway, get your seller to setup a phony ebay auction. Make sure that what's being sold is free you can even sell a piece of plr software or ebooks, must be digital. Ok, the seller sets up the auction for the plr item and makes it cost the same price as the real item that is going to be sold, plus the auction fees if the buyer is paying them. Get the seller to send you the auction address. Buy the item with Paypal through the ebay auction page. Congratulations, you are now officially protected (by about $2000):). Now, send an email to the seller and get them to send you the product by email. If they don't, you can go harass Paypal and let them know you didn't receive your ebay product. If Paypal follows their own agreement of $2000 protection, they will either refund the money or take your money back from the seller.

    Be aware and make sure the item isn't against ebay TOS or paypal won't refund.
    Happy anti scamming:D
    If you like the idea click thanks
     
  2. mrblackhat

    mrblackhat Regular Member

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    you don't get $2000, on some auctions, you get refunded if you get scammed, the full price of the product unless it's over $2000, this is just so someone can't walk away with your money and you can't do anything about it because your trade wasn't insured. Although, now that i think of it you may be able to do that to screw with ebay and paypal. But please, by all means don't think you can fuck with ebay and paypal and don't get caught. this is simply a method of free insurance not to steal a large corporations money.
     
  3. lemon

    lemon Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    paypal doesn't support digital products, so two things can happen:

    1) buyer scams you, paypal tells you that you're SOL and you don't get the money.

    2) buyer delivers product, you open dispute anyway, paypal refunds you the money.

    i'm not sure which one is true, however this is not really that safe for either party.

    also: F*ck ebay.
     
  4. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Dude digital delivery on paypal - buyer says non receipt or unauthorized = automatic gets his money back. This is because there's no tracking info that you can present.

    Also if he says not as described (piece of shit product) YOU win the money every time automatically if its digital delivery.

    These are the policies, I deal with a crap load of paypal transactions every day as well as a ton of scammers and morons.
     
  5. No Limits

    No Limits Junior Member

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    Nope, isn't going to work. Here's why; If you have paypal digital delivery, the buyer automatically gets their money back if they say they didn't get it or the favorite "unauthorized transaction". This will happen unless you have tracking and can show that that same email address and IP attached to it downloaded your product. It can be done, but it's a lot of work. Next is the 'significantly not as described' category. Buyer wins every time. Every time, even if it's physical goods. If shipped, buyer is responsible for all shipping fees back to the seller before they get their money back. So your idea won't work. But if you want to send somebody an empty tuna fish can, say, in place of the auction they really got, they will HAVE TO spend the shipping money by a trackable method to get it back to you. Oh well.
     
  6. No Limits

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    Nope, isn't going to work. Here's why; If you have paypal digital delivery, the buyer automatically gets their money back if they say they didn't get it or the favorite "unauthorized transaction". This will happen unless you have tracking and can show that that same email address and IP attached to it downloaded your product. It can be done, but it's a lot of work. Next is the 'significantly not as described' category. Buyer wins every time. Every time, even if it's physical goods. If shipped, buyer is responsible for all shipping fees back to the seller before they get their money back. So your idea won't work. But if you want to send somebody an empty tuna fish can, say, in place of the auction they really got, they will HAVE TO spend the shipping money by a trackable method to get it back to you. Oh well.