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Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by aardanyul, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. aardanyul

    aardanyul BANNED BANNED

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    When you post in a forum with a link to your site, does the link count on the pagerank of the forum, subforum your posting on, or the individual post you put your link on?
     
  2. herron

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    The pagerank will trickle through from the top level domain all the way to the page with your post. The high PR may also mean that more spiders are going to be vistiting the site regular so a greater chance of them actually finding the link quickly. After a few months you can check the PR of your post just to see if it is seeing some of the link juice.
     
  3. foreclosureking

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    Yes, that's correct!

    If you want PR, just get yourself one of the High PR site lists like Angela's list or similar. Post your URL in some of the High PR profile and in a few days you should see some improvement in your ranking.

    Good luck :)
     
  4. Micallef

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    I have to give a contrasting opinion here. A domain homepage with PR 8 distributes its linkjuice internally, and how much PR each internal page gets - for example, forum threads or blog articles with comments - is reflected by the PR score for that page. Thus, a page with PR n/a or zero shows up as such because the internal link structure of the domain has sent it hardly any link juice. It is true that the PR may not have updated yet, but I believe this applies in a relatively small number of cases.

    A page has PR0 or PR n/a because it has negligible link juice going into it. If it's got next to nothing, then there is little benefit in tapping the page with your link. Relevancy/authority may be strong factors here, but It also must be admitted that the core of a link's importance comes from the amount of link juice given to it by the page rank flow system.

    Because of this, I would answer that the individual thread is all important. Its PR is the main determinant of its value for link juice. However, I have to concede the possibility that you may get some bonus points from authority/relevancy as it is widely believed on the forum, although I have not personally seen any evidence for this. Google actually reported that .edu links are only seen as so powerful because they have a lot of aged, high PR links - not because of any magical authority effect.
     
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    webpages give you link juice, more pages more juice, links just move the juice around.

    post usefull content and have your link in your sig
     
  6. herron

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    Micallef, you are right in what you are saying about the numbers BUT Google doesn't regularly release it's pageranks (which are continually changing). Forum posts are profiles are all new content so it will take a few months before you actually see how the PR has trickled through and longer for it to get an established. If you are posting on old posts then pay attention to your PR toolbar but otherwise you have to make assumptions and some hope that the PR is there.

    One thing I do is find the profile of a long time member and see what their PR is sitting at. That will give you some idea of how Google treats the page.

    A High PR site does have high spider activity, regardless.
     
  7. aardanyul

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    hmm good tips herron thanks
     
  8. Micallef

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    Heron, can you show me a long time member profile page on a high PR domain that has a high PR itself? I have never actually seen one. I do a lot of backlink research.

    I actually want you to be right about this :) If you are, it would make my life a whole lot easier as I wouldn't have to fish for high PR pages.
     
  9. herron

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    Sure thing. This is just from a forum I came across yesterday and I have no idea where I found it but...

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    [URL]http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?action=profile;u=24[/URL]
    That is from a Moderator but it was the first name I saw. It is only PR4 but that isn't too bad. There are probably higher ones in there too.

    Here is a PR4 with 1 comment:
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    [URL]http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/user/angelae8654[/URL]
    I have seen a few PR6 too but that will take some digging to find whereabouts. I usually find one with some PR and add it to my list and worry about it later. Sure, the PR aren't really high but a lot pf people don't get their homepages to that PR level. Just Google AngelaE8654 and you will find a lot of evidence. Quite a few PR3 in there.
     
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    I guess I never really appreciated that profiles could carry decent juice but there is the evidence. I'll keep my eyes open for pages like these.
     
  11. aardanyul

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    good stuff herron, thanks mate!
     
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    If we take time to look at profile pages with high PR (PR4 and higher) on web 2.0 properties we will find that it is very common that the majority of pagerank comes from other pages from the same site.

    Take a profile page on Squid00 for example hxxp://www.squidoo.c0m/lensmasters/stargazer00 which has a PR4.

    If we look at the inbound links we see that the majority of the links come from Squid00 itself:
    hxxp://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.c0m/search?p=http://www.squidoo.com/lensmasters/stargazer00&fr=sfp&bwm=i

    Yes, there are other links pointing to this profile page, but the majority of the links are from Squid00.

    A few weeks ago I found a profile page on Squid00 that had PR6. It had about 50 links that ALL came from Squid00.

    The lesson I learned: if I take the time to be a bit more active on the site, especially on pages with high PR (i.e. - making comments on other lenses) then my profile page will be rewarded with high PR.
     
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    Yes, there is alot of this kind of stuff out there if you really look for it. The idea would be to create a profile, putting your link in the profile somewhere and then seeing what actions you can take on that site that will link to your profile. So you comment on a post on that site and your comment will link to your profile, which then links to your site. PR passed. Unless, of course, the profile link is nofollowed but most of the time they are not because it's an internal link.

    However, definately more time consuming.
     
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    Herron, you seem to know a lot about this forum stuff. May I ask you one question..I found a thread on wf about 500 forum backlinks package ( similar like angela concept ) that charge $10 per month.

    500 forum list each and every month! Is that yours? If it yours, the let the mod knows and put it in DNS list, otherwise..it will be spread out like a sugar..u know what i mean..
     
  15. herron

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    I know the thread you are talking about and nah, it isn't mine. I'm not selling anything on there. Cheers for looking out for me, anway ;)

    He gives away his secret in his very first post though - just do a backlink search on http://frenchkissingsecrets.com/ and you will have them all. There seems to be a lot of crap in there but I am sure there is some gold too.
     
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    My guess is - the homepage of the forum was spidered when the user's last post was listed in the forum category which passed the juice to the user's profile...

    maybe that's why there are trolls on forums... *deep thought*
     
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    how do i know if i got authority from that profile page
     
  18. darenet

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    It's interesting...btw backlinkwatch uses yahoo site explorer so not much use of it..instead you can go directly to YSE.
     
  19. lyechin2002

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    agree with you, but 1 thing I want to add is you have to use anchor text so that pr will be achievable.