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Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by The Doctor, May 30, 2016.

  1. The Doctor

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    I've used CPanel/WHM for a very long time (I'm not proud of that). I'm so glad I no longer do. I now use Interworx. It doesn't take over the system, locking you into certain repos and configurations. More importantly it scales all services across multiple servers: Web servers, email, DNS, MySQL, filesystem.

    It has all the important features of cPanel but you aren't restricted by the specs of one web server. You can do anything you can with WHM and more. I did a lot of research before switching.

    If anyone has any questions about Interworx I'd be happy to answer them as best I can.
     
  2. thanhclix

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    Have you tried it on cloud hosting such as Digital Ocean? If yes, is it easy to configure?
     
  3. Conor

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    Are you affiliated with them in any way OP?

    Not that I care, I just thought it might be worth mentioning in your post, in case people think you're promoting something.
     
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    The people who use Cpanel are idiots and didn't research? And you are a brilliant guy? Is that what you saying?
     
  5. The Doctor

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    Digital Ocean would work just fine and the VPS licenses are bit cheaper. All licenses are cheap enough anyway. Free single domain licenses for your DNS servers (Though technically you don't need to make dedicated DNS servers) can be registered at www.licensecart.com. I recommend getting your first unlimited domain license direct from Interworx for better support.

    No, I'd have mentioned that of course but I'm not though I wish I was. Maybe someday I'll build a panel.

    The people who use cpanel are not necessarily idiots. I was fully capable of admining and scaling Linux servers with no panel at all before I ever used cPanel but it's become somewhat of a standard for quickly setting up a shared hosting environment. You can even still do clustering with cPanel but it's daunting and not recommended by any means. Do you remember what was around when cPanel first came out? Plesk? Webmin? I'd have never at any point used any of those panels to scale. I've always done it manually. Now that isn't half as necessary.

    A brilliant guy? I don't normally claim such things like a pompous ass (As your comment might suggest you to be) but I am technically a genius and I've been writing code and configuring systems since I was 9 years old (1993). I have degrees and several certifications. There isn't much I can't do and if I wanted to I could make a panel better than any that has ever been created. For now, Interworx is the best I've found.
     
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    Guaranteed Affiliated!
     
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    You can also use centminmod, nice stuff to install nginx with only a few clicks.
     
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    Ive used centminmod (no affiliation) and its awesome! Very fast to install a LEMP stack :)
     
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    Please don't spread that kind of crap. I'm no affiliate and I can prove it. They don't even have an affiliate program. Just some reseller thing and I've posted no such links. If I wanted to promote something here that I was a part of I'd simply say I was a part of it. Only a fool would do otherwise. This is an informative thread, nothing more.

    That looks neat as well. You'd have to do all the scaling/clustering config manually though.
     
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  10. obosor

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    Whats the problem with cPanel?
     
  11. The Doctor

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    I'll give you a long answer of what I did and why...

    It doesn't scale and it more often than not will prevent you from customizing your server outside of the panel. Scaling is the main problem. I just started using Interworx so what I've done is setup 2 nameservers (Each on a $3 VPS) and then installed Interworx on a very powerful dedicated server. I'm using that as my cluster manager. For now it hosts all of my sites on its own but if server load winds up becoming too much for this dedi, I can deploy another Interworx server as a member of my Interworx cluster to take some load off of the main server. My cluster nodes are probably going to be VPSs (Cheaper than my dedi/main server).

    What you sort of wind up with is your own hosting cloud. I've gone through all the options and I haven't come across anything I need to do that I can't. Many people (Including myself) have been asking CPanel to implement scaling solutions for many years but they never make any plans to do it, feature requests that fall on deaf ears.

    It depends on your needs. If you don't need to handle that much traffic, mysql queries, disk usage, etc. or don't want to have more underlying control over your system then there's nothing wrong with CPanel. On the other hand, why not be prepared just in case you wind up needing it? Otherwise, you'll wind up having to migrate anyway which is annoying. Luckily, Interworx can mass import all your accounts from your CPanel server so it wasn't too bad but of course you'll spend some hours changing settings and whatnot.

    I have some high traffic sites and I really needed to upgrade from the VPS I was using (It was getting bogged down and you can't just add a second CPanel server to help you) so when I went shopping for a dedi and then learned of interworx it was a no-brainer. The only thing I miss is the nginx caching I had installed on WHM but I'm about to replace Apache with Litespeed anyway so I won't need it. Litespeed is a great drop-in replacement for Apache as it greatly outperforms it. Nginx outperforms it as well but then you can't use Apache directives and .htaccess files.

    So right now my hosting sauce is: Dedi + CloudLinux + interworx + Litespeed + Cheap DNS servers and future iworx VPS servers as load invariably increases. The central server doesn't have to be a dedi. I just wanted assured performance on the main server because I have a lot of traffic and mysql requests running on it at the moment.

    Not to geek out over it but I'm very excited and happy with my new setup. I was afraid I wasn't going to be but I am.
     
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    I don't think that @FuManChu is affiliate with Intraworx. I know many well known VPS providers who are providing (licenses of) InterWorx as an cPanel alternative on half price !
    On my 2 VPS(s) with https://www.linuxssdvps.com I'm using Intraworx and is awesome ! Has the same (and in most cases better features of WHM/cPANEL ) has better security . Under one sub-account you can assig as many IPs you want per domain (on cPanel if you want to have unique IP per domain you have to create unique account for each). You can import your cPanel account(s) with one click . The best part? Request less resources :)
     
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    so, why most web hosting company use cpanel rather than interworx?
     
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    Because cPanel is more widely popular and more people are familiar with it and its simplicity.
     
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    Is like asking why most of the bloggers out there are using WordPress and not Joomla or Drupal :)

    P.S: You are manually setting the mail limit through the panel atm
     
  17. K.H.R

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    I have 1 Question, why you are promoting this?

    No idea, why you created this post here. In general view, it's really not necessary to post.

    Anyway, thanks for the letting us know You are using this. If i need any help I will pm you.

    Thanks
     
  18. forethan

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    Hi op and thanks i will check that.
    For now i use ispconfig for my dedicated server.
    What's your tought about ispconfig?
     
  19. intuitive

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    That's exactly what I mean. Bloggers prefer wordpress because it bring more advantage (better functionality and flexibility) if compared to joomla or drupal.
    In this case, I believe there are some reasons why webhosting company prefer choosing cpanel rather than interworx

    I'm talking about behaviour analysis.
     
  20. dariusdarius

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    Never used interworx. I've heard about it that is not very stable when it comes to Cloud. I've read the Digitalocean experience above, but still, I have my doubts..