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Forget about Motivation...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by mungus, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. mungus

    mungus Regular Member

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    Pretty short post this but I hope it's of use to someone out there. I've just finished reading Derren Brown's Trick of The Mind, a book I was given for xmas about 4 years ago and didn't bother reading up until last week. For those of you who don't know him, (he's big(ish) in the UK) check out some of his videos.

    Anyway, there's this one point in the book that really stuck out at me and that was his explanation of how to get yourself motivated to perform even the most mundane tasks.

    To cut things short, he basically states, that, and I think he's totally right, Motivation doesn't exist! It's not a genuine emotion, natural drive, or anything, it's a term to explain a lack of action. In the same sense that darkness is the absence of light, darkness isn't a "thing" whereas light is.
    Now given this principle I must be one lazy fucker in that case, at first I found this to be quite a negative take on things, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. JUST DO IT! If Motivation doesn't exist, then neither does a lack of it!

    Just humour me for a week and try and put yourself in the ruthless mindset of just doing things, don't think.EVER. Just shift up a gear, say fuck it, and blast away. I'm telling you it really works and the last week alone for me has really made a massive difference.

    Keep up the good fight BlackHatters!
     
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  2. Johnnyfox

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    It's nice to see random motivational posts here. I agree. Too often we over think things and get caught up in how we "feel" or what we "think" we should do, and as a result nothing is really happening.

    I can only add that I have noticed in the past 2 weeks that I personally really need a written out PLAN and a SCHEDULE to implement that plan. I mean I need to physically write it down and DO it.

    Have you ever had those days where you are grinding for 11 hours and when you finally rip yourself away from the computer you can't think of what you accomplished?

    I will admit it, It happens to me more often than I like to admit.

    so yeah, screw motivation, just DO WHAT YOU NEED TO and make sure you have a GOAL and a PLAN.
     
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  3. Roundhouse

    Roundhouse Regular Member

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    I actually feel that motivation is something that exists. Motivation is what describes our actions/drive/reasons to complete a task or objective
     
  4. mungus

    mungus Regular Member

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    I personally don't think it exists. I'l explain why, I believe in the old genuine animalistic things that drive our everyday behaviour, ie food, sex, warmth etc. These are different from so called "motivation". When you are hungry, you eat.simple.The drive to eat is there already when you are hungry, nobody ever "pscyches" themselves up to get hungry do they? It just happens when you NEED it. Motivation on the other hand, is an imagined process of trying to "think" yourself into getting into a mood where you feel driven to do something. It's not a drive in itself and in my experience , this thinking process ALWAYS takes up more of my time than the actual task I am trying to motivate myself to do! and therefore, it is more of a hinderence than anything usefull so from now on I choose to ignore it,in fact, I find that the things that most often stop me doing what I want to get done, are not a "lack of motivation" but my natural drives which tell me "why spend the next 10 hours online, when I could sit and watch TV in Comfort, SLEEP,EAT or Fuck my girlfriend (that I don't have :) ) . So yeah, I feel it's always better to just do it.
     
  5. milke_sj

    milke_sj Junior Member

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    Your absolutely right, there is no such thing, if u need motivation u wont make it. just do it because u have to. if u want to succeed u need to wor

    1. k simple as that,


      I feel numb most of the time, ppl asked me how did it feel to make $100 per day, i said i felt nothing.

      Now they ask how does it to make $xxxx per day i say i feel nothing.

      AND PLEASE DONT GET MOTIVATED BY FEAR, that is absolutely the worst and will give urself headaches.

      Just say things happen for a reason, as long as im working hard i will get to my goal.

      Pce
     
  6. Soayame

    Soayame Regular Member

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    I disagree to a degree. U are saying do a goal because you have to? You dont have to do shit! You choose to eat be on bhw work and bla bla. Motivation is what actually make you get off your ass and do it. By nature humans are lazy as fuck but when u visualize ur goals ur plans be completed then it makes u get up and just go.

    Now talking bout the subconscious mind with automated functions and instincts such as eating, mating and so on. Well they are things that u need to do to live u dont need to do BH stuff to live its the greed, the hunger to be successful that allows you to drive even further beyond. So u say there is a lack of drive then the other way around is plenty of it! One cant exist with the other.

    Thats like saying Pride doesnt exist yet the opposite of that is being humble or another would be low self esteeem. They both exist man.

    But i do agree that u need to get up off ur ass and just hop to it with a plan and persistence.
     
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    1. Meh thats wrong too. You are saying u should get off ur ass because you have to? Dude the action to get ur ass off the ground to get to work is the motivation itself. Guys look up the definition please. Drive that make humans do things. According to Psychology it is a natural thing. People are lazy because they are fearful of failing yet they fail to realize that humans adapt so we constantly have to be defeated to learn to get good at anything. We are time delayed and adaptable creatures. The mind is hard to control because it has so much power.
     
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    wrong for others yes but not me, when i want something i work hard and achieve my goal simple as that. I had a hard life growing up and had to take of my younger siblings. Maybe that made me grow up a little to early.

    Got my masters in engineering got an amazing paying job, make Bh success, etc.

    ppl are lazy but there are others that just do it. and dont complain and dont need motivation because our hearts and souls are strong
     
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    LOL man.. his got all subliminal suggestion on his book to make you addicted to him. I wouldn't be surprise if you will watch all his videos ..

    I'm a big fan too. LOL
     
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    aceofwisdom Newbie

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    motivation is king, you will give up anything sooner or later with no motivation (call it money...feelings.. or whatever)
     
  12. samlim

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    the greatest enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan

    :)
     
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    hi Mungus, thanks for sharing it.
    i dont have intention about the
    existance of motivation. but completely agree with the insight.

    this is what i put in mind so far:
    do to know!
    NOT know to do.

    start doing!
     
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    Derren Brown's Trick of The Mind - tricks the readers with his tricky mind.
     
  15. MentalEdge

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    Really interesting mindset. I guess it all comes down to your needs.

    Just do whatever needs to be done to reach your goals. Well easier said then done, but ppl do it everyday e.g. if your hungry you make yourself something to eat, if you don't have food at home you go and buy something etc ....

    Sure this are things which have to be done no matter what but even things like cleaning your room can be achieved even if you dont want to do it. Just think about it:

    cleaning vs. your girlfriends/wifes/mums yelling at you because you didnt do it

    I guess option number one is the better option for most of us.

    Motivation is just a word for doing things which have to be done. :rolleyes:
    As some said before you dont need motivation and you dont need no motivation. :p

    If you have fun doing it, it will be easier but if it's not just try to think of the problems you get when you don't do it and compare whats better for you.
     
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    meatbeagle Newbie

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    Haha! Motivation DEFINITELY doesn't exist... at my house. Man oh man - I have about a trillion projects on the list and am making very little progress on any of them. Thanks for sharing this - maybe it will get me moving this week!
     
  17. Monrox

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    Motivation exists and it is the craving for rewarding substances. Once a condition is satisfied, the substance is released. For some it's getting fatter watching tv, for others it's becoming rich. But the mechanism is the same, only the condition that triggers it is different for different people.

    Heroin is an external rewarding substance. Since addicts know they can reward themselves instantly, they have 0 motivation to chase the same reward with complicated approaches like working all day and having a relaxing drink in the evening or whatever else makes us content.

    Anyway, it is important to condition your mind to reward you for the right results. As it is, when I watch TV for hours, I am happy but then feel guilty for wasting my time. When I build links for hours and the site gets deindexed, I don't feel guilty even though I effectively wasted time once again. Watching tv won't make you rich, dropping links can very much do so.
     
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