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This might seem like a rant but I have no Idea where to post this , because all the forex forums are either full of bots and people trying to sell trading strategies and bs like that. I've been lurking on this forum for a while without an account, and I have seen people talking about FOREX as well so I thought I might give it a go, maybe someone could help me understand better whet I'm doing. And maybe I'll find different methods of making money as well, other than forex, because I'm not planning to work a so called ''9 to 5'' my whole life ( yes it might sound hypocritical and maybe you heard it a lot but it is what it is)

I’m 23 and for the past year I've been looking into trading, more exactly the Forex market, and for the past 4 months I've been actually doing it using a paper account or a demo account however you want to call it.
Yes I've heard a mix of opinions whether FOREX trading is a scam or not, or that the market is influenced and controlled by the broker and everyone is against me and eager to take my money.

But that is not the problem. The problem is ME. Because I feel a bit lost. Maybe it's my fault, or maybe all the info coming from everywhere is mixed in my dumb brain, however, I’d like the opinion of someone that has experience in this field.

Note: I have used Baby Pips to learn about FOREX and also I have read some books regarding price action and different strategies, yet some of them seem a bit confusing.
(Bear in mind english it's not my first language)

I’ll list the problems in the following order:

  1. I don't have a concise’’ strategy’’ as most people claim to have, because I don't understand exactly how to create my own strategy. I’d say that I'm mainly going with the gut feeling and using the hints that the market offers.

At the beginning I was looking into scalping and day trading on low timeframes, and I was using the advice of all the FOREX guru’s I found on YouTube, aka. using all sorts of indicators and mambo jumbos. However later on, I've seen that it's not a plausible thing to use and it will lead to heavy losses.

Now, I'm ‘’trading’’ on my demo account using Price Action and only using 200 EMA /RSI and candle formations and patterns, supports and resistances and so on. So not as many lagging indicators included in this ‘’ strategy’’ of mine (apart from the EMA/RSI)

Yet the problem is that I feel like I'm not entering the trades at a good time, or I don’t know how to enter a trade at an opportune moment, which kind of makes me feel uneasy and makes me think that I'm a loser, which I am though.

What I'm mostly baffled about it's the way the market moves. For example, I set all my supports and resistances ( yes I'm trying not to force place any lines, only the ones that make sense), I’ll look for any patterns that could form on the chart, I try to look for any BUY/SELL zones, or any demand zones to see where could the market go potentially. I’m looking at the 200 EMA to get an idea of whether the market is bearish or bullish. I check the higher time frames for trends and also the lower time frames for entries, and also I might sometimes use the RSI to see whether it aligns with the rest of the ‘’prophecies’’. And I place the trade, which most of the time might end up being a loss. I think I might be rushing when placing the trades or I don't know… I know this takes time and practice but I feel like sometimes, I’m just lost in all this trading fiasco.


  1. My money management skills are likely a part of the problem. I’m mainly placing trades with a 1:2 or 1:3 ratio, depending on the analysis I have done prior to placing the trade however lately I observed that I might not be looking at how much actually that 1:2 means in terms of pips which correct me if I'm wrong, it does matter.

What I mean by this is that, ok , I’m placing the trade, but it could have a stop loss of 80 pips and a take profit of 160 pips. Let me know if it is too much for the beginning or maybe I'm forcing things here by trying to rack in as many pips as I can.

What I'm trying to say is, Should I have a set loss limit? For example, my account is 1000$ and I’m trading 1% at the time, and on that trade with a ratio of 1:2 my stop loss will be max 30 pips, or should I place the stop loss in a place where I'd have less potential risk of not being swept out by spikes, while risking a slightly bigger loss now, still maintaining the 1:2 ration but now my stop loss will be 50 pips, and my take profit 100 pips.

I’m sorry if this is confusing but I'm confused myself. Sometimes I feel like, yeah, I've got this, it's actually working, and sometimes it's going so bad that I think I should give up, but I won't. In the past months, I managed to take a 1000$ demo account and drain it down to the 900 ish zone, but then I Made some carefully planned profits that brought it up to 1500 ish zone, and now it's sitting at around 1346$.

All I’m asking is someone's opinion on the things I said above, am I doing it as I should? What's wrong in what I'm doing? I’ll try to answer as soon as I can but i'm working nights and sleeping half of the day sooo.. yeah
 
I am currently learning trading too. I can recommend learning ICT concepts and fundamentals. Also remember that you do not need to trade everyday. Just wait for the perfect opportunity. This will also help with psychology and lead to better results.
If you get lost while learning ICT concepts there are many videos for the path you should follow and discord servers.

GLHF
 
Hello RedPotato, it sounds like you are struggling to develop a clear strategy and improve your trading skills in the Forex market. I understand that it can be overwhelming to navigate through all the information and opinions available online. However, it's important to remember that trading requires time, patience, and practice.

Let's address your concerns one by one:

  1. Developing a trading strategy:
It's crucial to have a trading strategy that fits your personality, trading style, and risk tolerance. You mentioned that you are currently using price action, support and resistance, and a few indicators. That's a good start. However, you need to backtest your strategy using historical data and fine-tune it until you find what works for you. Keep in mind that your strategy needs to have rules for entry, exit, and risk management. You can also consider keeping a trading journal to record your trades and review your performance regularly.

  1. Timing your trades:
Entering trades at the right time can make a significant difference in your profitability. It's essential to wait for confirmation signals and avoid impulsive trades. You can also consider using multiple time frames to identify potential trade setups and make informed decisions.

  1. Money management:
Proper money management is crucial for long-term success in trading. It's advisable to risk no more than 1-2% of your account on each trade. You also need to set your stop loss and take profit levels based on your analysis, not just on a random ratio. Additionally, you can consider using trailing stop loss to lock in profits and minimize your losses.

  1. Overcoming the emotional rollercoaster:
Trading can be emotionally challenging, especially when you experience losing streaks. It's crucial to remain disciplined, patient, and realistic. Avoid overtrading, revenge trading, and chasing losses. Focus on following your trading plan and sticking to your strategy. It's also essential to take breaks, practice self-care, and have a support system to help you stay motivated and accountable.

I hope these tips help you in your trading journey. Remember, success in trading is not about finding the Holy Grail strategy or making quick profits. It's about developing a sustainable and consistent approach that works for you. Keep learning, practicing, and adapting to the markets, and you will eventually succeed.
IF OYU HAVEING TROUBLE TO MAKE MONEY TRY copy traidng that will be a best option
 
IF OYU HAVEING TROUBLE TO MAKE MONEY TRY copy traidng that will be a best option

You gotta be very careful with copytrading, especially as a newbie. Many signal providers cook their numbers and grossly underdeliver. Your chances to get rekt while copytrading are high and you won't even learn anything in the process.
 
It is good that you have identified a problem in your trading and you are completely right. You need to have a system you can follow to a T every time. It is also essential to keep a journal and note down every trade, you should review this on the weekends and reflect on what happened. When you build up enough entries you will realize there are lots of opportunities that repeat and you can see what you did last time. You also mentioned about entering trades, I act when there is a minimum of 3 confluences, and don't worry if you "miss" out just let it go and move on don't try to chase price. Your R:R should line up with your analysis and not be chosen arbitrarily, do you have a reason for using 1:2 or 1:3 other than risk management? The top-down analysis you do is good, I also do similar. Looking at the weekly candle and deciding my initial bias whether it will be higher or lower depending on seasonality, news, etc.

I agree with Metug's comment about ICT, lots of free content to watch, and many other YouTubers teaching SMC. Some people will argue that it's all crap and some will say it's semantics but it doesn't really matter, there are profitable traders using SMC and profitable traders using "retail methodology", follow what clicks with you best.
 
It is good that you have identified a problem in your trading and you are completely right. You need to have a system you can follow to a T every time. It is also essential to keep a journal and note down every trade, you should review this on the weekends and reflect on what happened. When you build up enough entries you will realize there are lots of opportunities that repeat and you can see what you did last time. You also mentioned about entering trades, I act when there is a minimum of 3 confluences, and don't worry if you "miss" out just let it go and move on don't try to chase price. Your R:R should line up with your analysis and not be chosen arbitrarily, do you have a reason for using 1:2 or 1:3 other than risk management? The top-down analysis you do is good, I also do similar. Looking at the weekly candle and deciding my initial bias whether it will be higher or lower depending on seasonality, news, etc.

I agree with Metug's comment about ICT, lots of free content to watch, and many other YouTubers teaching SMC. Some people will argue that it's all crap and some will say it's semantics but it doesn't really matter, there are profitable traders using SMC and profitable traders using "retail methodology", follow what clicks with you best.
Doing what is suitable for you is the best. For "retail methodology" there is LamboRaul to watch.

Best of luck. :)
 
I am currently learning trading too. I can recommend learning ICT concepts and fundamentals. Also remember that you do not need to trade everyday. Just wait for the perfect opportunity. This will also help with psychology and lead to better results.
If you get lost while learning ICT concepts there are many videos for the path you should follow and discord servers.

GLHF
Thanks, I'll look into it :)
 
Sorry but all money trading like gambling.

If you survive good luck.

I think it based on luck not skill.

The only time it skill When you got good info what going up and down, and you profit from it... .

Don't get scammed from application and flashy sales pitches.

The only real way to no what a winner on trading is keeping up with eccomeny wealth on everythink that interest you, that your willing to invest in.

Remember application are not 100% live or correct the stock exchange very fast and you need to rely on a really good system that works but they cost a lot of money big investment and a huge internet line/connection needed...

I wish you good luck it a full time study and very expensive.
 
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Hello RedPotato, it sounds like you are struggling to develop a clear strategy and improve your trading skills in the Forex market. I understand that it can be overwhelming to navigate through all the information and opinions available online. However, it's important to remember that trading requires time, patience, and practice.

Let's address your concerns one by one:

  1. Developing a trading strategy:
It's crucial to have a trading strategy that fits your personality, trading style, and risk tolerance. You mentioned that you are currently using price action, support and resistance, and a few indicators. That's a good start. However, you need to backtest your strategy using historical data and fine-tune it until you find what works for you. Keep in mind that your strategy needs to have rules for entry, exit, and risk management. You can also consider keeping a trading journal to record your trades and review your performance regularly.

  1. Timing your trades:
Entering trades at the right time can make a significant difference in your profitability. It's essential to wait for confirmation signals and avoid impulsive trades. You can also consider using multiple time frames to identify potential trade setups and make informed decisions.

  1. Money management:
Proper money management is crucial for long-term success in trading. It's advisable to risk no more than 1-2% of your account on each trade. You also need to set your stop loss and take profit levels based on your analysis, not just on a random ratio. Additionally, you can consider using trailing stop loss to lock in profits and minimize your losses.

  1. Overcoming the emotional rollercoaster:
Trading can be emotionally challenging, especially when you experience losing streaks. It's crucial to remain disciplined, patient, and realistic. Avoid overtrading, revenge trading, and chasing losses. Focus on following your trading plan and sticking to your strategy. It's also essential to take breaks, practice self-care, and have a support system to help you stay motivated and accountable.

I hope these tips help you in your trading journey. Remember, success in trading is not about finding the Holy Grail strategy or making quick profits. It's about developing a sustainable and consistent approach that works for you. Keep learning, practicing, and adapting to the markets, and you will eventually succeed.
IF OYU HAVEING TROUBLE TO MAKE MONEY TRY copy traidng that will be a best option
Wow, this is the first forum where I actually get help and people actually seem to care and help each other.
Thanks a lot, I'm currently looking into fine tuning my strategy and chisel myself emotionally speaking.
Thanks a lot for your advice!!!
 
You gotta be very careful with copytrading, especially as a newbie. Many signal providers cook their numbers and grossly underdeliver. Your chances to get rekt while copytrading are high and you won't even learn anything in the process.
I have a friend which was doing copytrading and he kinda got smoked a bit and lost a bunch of money. Plus, I prefer to do the work myself, so, I'll stick to basic trading. Thanks for the heads up :)
 
It is good that you have identified a problem in your trading and you are completely right. You need to have a system you can follow to a T every time. It is also essential to keep a journal and note down every trade, you should review this on the weekends and reflect on what happened. When you build up enough entries you will realize there are lots of opportunities that repeat and you can see what you did last time. You also mentioned about entering trades, I act when there is a minimum of 3 confluences, and don't worry if you "miss" out just let it go and move on don't try to chase price. Your R:R should line up with your analysis and not be chosen arbitrarily, do you have a reason for using 1:2 or 1:3 other than risk management? The top-down analysis you do is good, I also do similar. Looking at the weekly candle and deciding my initial bias whether it will be higher or lower depending on seasonality, news, etc.

I agree with Metug's comment about ICT, lots of free content to watch, and many other YouTubers teaching SMC. Some people will argue that it's all crap and some will say it's semantics but it doesn't really matter, there are profitable traders using SMC and profitable traders using "retail methodology", follow what clicks with you best.
Hi, thanks for tuning in. Im trying to develop a system, and I will start to record all my trades, where as before I would've kept a mind list of the past trades, yet that didnt work very well. As for the R:R, sometimes when I spot a trade I will set the R:R in accordance with how the supports or resistances are set, for the example, a breakout happens, small retest, res becomes support, then it heads up to the next resistance. Thats the zone where I would place my take profit. And that's the R:R, from the retest to the next resistance.
However, sometimes when its not clear, I will set a 1:2 and without having a clear profit take target, and as the price goes my way, ill move the SL to a break even and maybe extend the take profit zone as I keep trailing with the SL.
Thats what I usually do.
Also, thank you for the advice, sometimes I do try to chase the price and I know its wrong, I'm working on not doing it anymore, trying to not get affected by fomo anymore.
Thanks again!!
 
Sorry but all money trading like gambling.

If you survive good luck.

I think it based on luck not skill.

The only time it skill When you got good info what going up and down, and you profit from it... .

Don't get scammed from application and flashy sales pitches.

The only real way to no what a winner on trading is keeping up with eccomeny wealth on everythink that interest you, that your willing to invest in.

Remember application are not 100% live or correct the stock exchange very fast and you need to rely on a really good system that works but they cost a lot of money big investment and a huge internet line/connection needed...

I wish you good luck it a full time study and very expensive.
Maybe I'll be good at gambling on this market XD, you never know.
Thanks for the app tips and also very good point regarding the economy keep up, I do believe I'm severely lacking at doing it properly.
 
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Thank you guys for all the feedback.
I've made a list with all the info and advice that you guys gave me.
As of today, I'll put it in practice.
Also sorry for the late replies, I have a not so nice night shift job and I'm trying to keep up with life as well :confused:
Thank again and also good luck to u guys as well in what you are trying to achieve!
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Practice 1st using virtual currency

Remember this
- set you rules and always follow it (your trading strategy, buy and sell signals, your risk reward ratio)
- dont over trade
- execution of your trading plan/rule is greater than profit

I have tried forex trading and stock trading in the past, and i always overtrade and not following a trading plan which leads to loss
 
Been trading for almost 4 years, can only say I don't like subjective trading. Never seen anyone actually making consistent money with subjective trading. However you only see subjective traders selling their courses and hidden gems such as concept and all that other stuff.

While for objective trading these courses are much less available and much less promoted like a get rich quick scheme. I would advise you to look into objective trading and then you might stumble upon algo trading which is even better.
 
I should say that 3 of those 4 years were subjective trading and last year I started objective trading, never had more success in this field than ever.

As always can't tell for how long this will last but I've been consistent profitable for over 6 months now and currently managing 40k in MFF, 1 vip account and 1 recently passed.

Those are not big numbers I know but I like to pass 20k challenges which are the best option when it comes to passing any challenges if you take price and try outs into consideration.

Passing about 70% off the challenges which I start.
 
There are certain trading platforms that you can use for prebuilt trading strategies.

TradingView has such a feature.

You should look into that.

Also, copy trading is real, so there are people who, for whatever reason, tend to make the right calls than otherwise.

In short, they win more than they lose, and you might want to consider opening an account in an FX copy trading platform and copying the trades of somebody with a long track record and an overall high success rate.

You are piggybacking on their success while learning the ins and outs of forex trading.

That's the best advice I can give you.

It's intended to give you a headstart while mastering forex trading to the point that you can at least enjoy a sustainable win rate.

The big danger with FX is you get in, and your first few dozen trades are generally successful, giving you the false confidence you've got it all figured out.

This can lead to tremendous disaster, so do yourself a big favor by getting a headstart.

Using preset trading patterns or copy trading have higher chances of success.
 
This might seem like a rant but I have no Idea where to post this , because all the forex forums are either full of bots and people trying to sell trading strategies and bs like that. I've been lurking on this forum for a while without an account, and I have seen people talking about FOREX as well so I thought I might give it a go, maybe someone could help me understand better whet I'm doing. And maybe I'll find different methods of making money as well, other than forex, because I'm not planning to work a so called ''9 to 5'' my whole life ( yes it might sound hypocritical and maybe you heard it a lot but it is what it is)

I’m 23 and for the past year I've been looking into trading, more exactly the Forex market, and for the past 4 months I've been actually doing it using a paper account or a demo account however you want to call it.
Yes I've heard a mix of opinions whether FOREX trading is a scam or not, or that the market is influenced and controlled by the broker and everyone is against me and eager to take my money.

But that is not the problem. The problem is ME. Because I feel a bit lost. Maybe it's my fault, or maybe all the info coming from everywhere is mixed in my dumb brain, however, I’d like the opinion of someone that has experience in this field.

Note: I have used Baby Pips to learn about FOREX and also I have read some books regarding price action and different strategies, yet some of them seem a bit confusing.
(Bear in mind english it's not my first language)

I’ll list the problems in the following order:

  1. I don't have a concise’’ strategy’’ as most people claim to have, because I don't understand exactly how to create my own strategy. I’d say that I'm mainly going with the gut feeling and using the hints that the market offers.

At the beginning I was looking into scalping and day trading on low timeframes, and I was using the advice of all the FOREX guru’s I found on YouTube, aka. using all sorts of indicators and mambo jumbos. However later on, I've seen that it's not a plausible thing to use and it will lead to heavy losses.

Now, I'm ‘’trading’’ on my demo account using Price Action and only using 200 EMA /RSI and candle formations and patterns, supports and resistances and so on. So not as many lagging indicators included in this ‘’ strategy’’ of mine (apart from the EMA/RSI)

Yet the problem is that I feel like I'm not entering the trades at a good time, or I don’t know how to enter a trade at an opportune moment, which kind of makes me feel uneasy and makes me think that I'm a loser, which I am though.

What I'm mostly baffled about it's the way the market moves. For example, I set all my supports and resistances ( yes I'm trying not to force place any lines, only the ones that make sense), I’ll look for any patterns that could form on the chart, I try to look for any BUY/SELL zones, or any demand zones to see where could the market go potentially. I’m looking at the 200 EMA to get an idea of whether the market is bearish or bullish. I check the higher time frames for trends and also the lower time frames for entries, and also I might sometimes use the RSI to see whether it aligns with the rest of the ‘’prophecies’’. And I place the trade, which most of the time might end up being a loss. I think I might be rushing when placing the trades or I don't know… I know this takes time and practice but I feel like sometimes, I’m just lost in all this trading fiasco.


  1. My money management skills are likely a part of the problem. I’m mainly placing trades with a 1:2 or 1:3 ratio, depending on the analysis I have done prior to placing the trade however lately I observed that I might not be looking at how much actually that 1:2 means in terms of pips which correct me if I'm wrong, it does matter.

What I mean by this is that, ok , I’m placing the trade, but it could have a stop loss of 80 pips and a take profit of 160 pips. Let me know if it is too much for the beginning or maybe I'm forcing things here by trying to rack in as many pips as I can.

What I'm trying to say is, Should I have a set loss limit? For example, my account is 1000$ and I’m trading 1% at the time, and on that trade with a ratio of 1:2 my stop loss will be max 30 pips, or should I place the stop loss in a place where I'd have less potential risk of not being swept out by spikes, while risking a slightly bigger loss now, still maintaining the 1:2 ration but now my stop loss will be 50 pips, and my take profit 100 pips.

I’m sorry if this is confusing but I'm confused myself. Sometimes I feel like, yeah, I've got this, it's actually working, and sometimes it's going so bad that I think I should give up, but I won't. In the past months, I managed to take a 1000$ demo account and drain it down to the 900 ish zone, but then I Made some carefully planned profits that brought it up to 1500 ish zone, and now it's sitting at around 1346$.

All I’m asking is someone's opinion on the things I said above, am I doing it as I should? What's wrong in what I'm doing? I’ll try to answer as soon as I can but i'm working nights and sleeping half of the day sooo.. yeah
I traded the Forex for several years, but I paper traded the first 2 years. You need genuine workable strategies, so start reading up on that first. Pick one strategy you like, paper trade it until you feel confident, a minimum of 6 months to a year. Don't get discouraged, because nothing works 100% of the time. Too many variables. Strategies work well when you know how to use them. Become an expert on one strategy. Then pick another one and get good at it. Timing is everything. That comes with experience. When to enter and when to exit is important, but you'll learn that. There's no right or wrong times. If you make a small profit, that's success. Don't beat yourself up for getting in late or leaving too early. Don't forget to put stop losses on everything. Your ratios are up to you, and how much risk you want to tolerate.
I'd be conservative, and it sounds like you are careful with your money. I actually like the 1:2 ratio. One of the things that helped me was learning candlestick formations. Learn how to apply that to a strategy, and you're golden! One other tip, don't make tons of trades. It eats up your profits. Select your trades carefully. Make tons of paper trades to learn. Can you find someone to mentor you? You're doing something right if you haven't lost all your money! Best of luck to you. Hope that helps.
 
Always found forex shady since there is no order book. You are trading against your broker. They can see all your orders, and do whatever it takes to fuck you over. Not saying Oanda or IG or some major broker will fuck you over for your measly $5k (they probably couldnt care less about your $5k). But think about why FX is such a competitive industry on the broker side and why there are literally thousands of forex brokers. Its probably because its way too easy for these brokers to fuck over their clients.
 
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