Foreign SEO: Link Building Like It’s 2012

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Danielharper

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Largely thanks to this forum I have no issue ranking my UK & US sites however for the past 18 months I've struggled to make the same progess with my German site. Anyway, I was doing some reading and came across this article : https://dfylinks.com/foreign-seo-backlinks-2019/


TLDR : SERPs outside of google.com & .co.uk can be gained through old school techniques many of us no longer use.

I was just wondering if anyone agreed with that sentiment and has any experience?

I'm tempted to go full black hat on my .de site and see if I can finally crack the first page!
 
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I continue to see lots of sites mainly depending on PBNs, blog spamming, as well link exchange with good results.
For instance, have one competitor (tech space) that exchange links in sidebar with multiple site (20-30 including porn) and traffic grown exponentially for over 5 months.
If compare algo updates u can see some movement but nothing compared to US or any "main" blog / report points out
 
That's really interesting. I'm quite excited to test this out. My German language site doesn't really get much traffic anyway compared to my main sites so I think I have nothing to lose. I'm going to 'throw everything' at it over the next three months as an experiment. Maybe I'll update results and progress here. Feel I need to start giving back after learning so much from the BHW forum!
 
I started doing this some months ago but make sure to spam the shit of some pages (silos) to pass juice to main pages. In case of a penalty I will simply delete those .
Scrapping sites/content and yandex translate / deepl (much better) ... a lot of sites ranking using this
 
I can tell you that European sites are 5-10 years behind in terms of SEO updates.
It's still the Wild West here!
 
Yes i concur, you can even rank with duplicate content
 
I have a competitor who is ranked in tops for main keywords with just many spam comment backlinks.
 
Well the major drama might be more focused on keyword rather than google.com or country specific
 
Problem is those old school search engines do not offer enough traffic.

Also consider the fact that unless you setup separate website for these countries, you are taking a lot of risk with Google optimizing for them. I don't think its worth the risk for most
 
I have 2 competitors with spammy links that are in the top ten, mainly chinese blogs
 
As a person who competes exclusively in foreign markets, I can say with confidence that Charles dramatically overstates the “ease” of ranking in foreign countries.

Sure, you could probably rank some smaller keywords easily, but I compete in dark hat markets and it’s every bit as difficult as competing in English.

Now, I’m referring to Germany... other countries could be easier, but Germany is no joke. It’s definitely just as hard as English in competitive SERPs.

Lastly — don’t get me wrong, I enjoy foreign SERPs and rank a lot of sites... but just don’t go in thinking it’s going to be a breeze. There are a lot of complications that come with foreign link building... I.e, not wanting to put foreign language anchors in English content, etc.

I am currently testing a variety of other countries as well so we’ll see how it goes.
 
blinggam said:
As a person who competes exclusively in foreign markets, I can say with confidence that Charles dramatically overstates the “ease” of ranking in foreign countries.

Sure, you could probably rank some smaller keywords easily, but I compete in dark hat markets and it’s every bit as difficult as competing in English.

Now, I’m referring to Germany... other countries could be easier, but Germany is no joke. It’s definitely just as hard as English in competitive SERPs.

Lastly — don’t get me wrong, I enjoy foreign SERPs and rank a lot of sites... but just don’t go in thinking it’s going to be a breeze. There are a lot of complications that come with foreign link building... I.e, not wanting to put foreign language anchors in English content, etc.

I am currently testing a variety of other countries as well so we’ll see how it goes.
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I am 100% agree you. Who told foreign markets are easy to crush is simply not true in 2019. I even found that those popular country like Germany are much harder to rank things, its no joke, its 2019, not 2012, or 2014, Google is much smarter than we thought now.

A reasonable perspective is even you can't rank number 1 page on English Google, you may still get traffics, because the search number of your keywords are always much much much more than equal foreign terms, say lose weight gets 100K searches per month on English version, but for Germany, you only get 1/10, thus, even u can rank it on 1st page, you won't get enough clicks, let alone, English markets always pay much more than others.

So all in all, its still a preference to rank a English site, not other language ones.
 
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OP might I suggest a small test before going " all in " Test things out first on a test domain you can play with things for pennies before just diving in on your site. Just a suggestion .
Best of luck I hope you crack the code.
 
I am interested in your updates as well. As others pointed out, the easiness of ranking in foreign markets is overstated. German for example is pretty much similar to US results... however what I did see though that comment spam is working still on some. Also if you look at German SEO markets, the majority of service offers is for manual forum links and outreach or authority contextual article links... so this alone is a good suggestion that the market is not much different.
 
From my point of view, foreign SEO is far from the far west. It's as hard as ranking keywords in English!
 
nakamura said:
I rank almost all my sites in Google.de and I can say: Not true. The german search engine is also very complex. Especially since last year. Go ahead and throw all kinda link on your site, your rankings won't get better. I tried it several times.
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What's been working for you?
 
nakamura said:
I rank almost all my sites in Google.de and I can say: Not true. The german search engine is also very complex. Especially since last year. Go ahead and throw all kinda link on your site, your rankings won't get better. I tried it several times.
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We are in the same boat


@OP
Yes, some are dominating first results with spam, but you copy them, you don't gain same results

It's weird as you can't rank following English google rules, neither 2011 rules
 
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