I made a comment in another thread and it got a response I felt like answering, but I didn't want to hijack the thread because the OP of that thread is actually looking for some real help. If anyone can help the OP in the other thread fine tune his backlinking strategy the original thread is here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...an-anyone-suggest-service-actually-works.html The following discussion seems more appropriate to the lounge so I decided to bring it here. Maybe some other people have a take on the idea of people searching through the general information in the forums rather than asking to be spoonfed a specific step by step plan that can be implemented without needing to even understand why it works. The step by step, blow by blow methods are rarely shared, because once they are, immediately thousands of people are following that exact laid out plan with no variation, and very little understanding of why they should do it. Within days or weeks, the method becomes useless to anyone. Then people look at the method and complain that its pointless info that doesn't work. The people complaining about it are actually annoyed because no one is sharing the real methods, just these pointless ones that don't work. Meanwhile others are using that very idea behind the method to continue making a lot of money. The internet is so full of crap that's being created and hosted everyday by people trying to use "cookie cutter methods to riches" that when you actually look for something on google you have to wade through all that crap before you can find really valuable information. The sad thing is most of people creating that crap aren't making nearly as much as the originator of the method, if anything at all. Even the creators of Xrummer and Scrapebox post messages to their users every now and then, trying to explain to people that they are just tools. If you don't give some thought to the comments, anchors, etc. that are being blasted out then using the tools is a waste of time. Change things up a little; be a little creative to get the best results. The average person unfortunately can't grasp the concept and ignores them, the continue blasting out a lot of spam that doesn't accomplish anything more than annoy the masses. I'm not claiming to be one of the guys offering great methods, I was pointing out that if you search the forums you can find methods that those guys have offered. If you have little understanding of how things work then most of the methods won't work for you because they were ruined by oversaturation within a short time of being offered. If you have even a slight understanding of how things work, and you read many of those methods, you will realize that the ideas are still valid and you can still make money with the methods. The reason I point people to the search button is because you're right, there are like a million posts to go through. It makes more sense to search through them, than it does to ask for those million posts to be rehashed every time someone opens a new thread asking for help. The internet is the greatest informational research tool ever invented, and yet instead of using it to find information, so many people only use it as a way to ask the same questions over and over. Instead of looking for the information themselves, they ask for someone else to find the information for them. Just to clue you in a little, pretty much every single one of those tricks that you think no one is going to share on here, actually has been shared. Not in one step by step spoonfed method like you want, but in bits and pieces. Answers to people?s questions that you think aren't good enough, threads discussing topics that you think are pointless, scattered throughout the forum the information is there. If you know how to search for information, you can find them. There isn't one magic trick that anyone is going to layout for your step by step. There are many small tips that when used together will achieve what your looking for. I haven't made any great shares myself; just posted some general basic information I thought might be helpful for people starting out. For my own business I don't use any tricks, I just follow a lot of the advice that you seem to think is worthless fluff. I haven't come up with any magic bullet methods myself, but I have offered specific answers in some of my posts. Mostly though I've tried to get people to look at why they should do the things they're told to do. Tried to get people to understand some of the basic things that make the various methods work. I've tried giving them a way of looking at the information they find on here, so that they can start identifying the bits and pieces of information that they can use and put together into a method that works. I guess that type of share is more annoying than helpful. Maybe I should tone it down a little. I'm just providing a lot of fluff that gets in the way for people looking to be spoonfed an exact step by step method. Apparently people just want a method they can follow without needing to understand why it works. So I guess I'll just go back to reading through all the posts and threads that you think are so useless, and use them to continue building my own business, and leave everyone else to their whining and complaining that no one shares the REAL TRICKS. As I see the new methods get offered and then destroyed by people just following the methods by rote, and then after everyone starts bitching about what a worthless method it is I'll start using the ideas behind the method to start making more money with it. I probably shouldn't even be making posts as often as I do. I'm certainly not a guru who's making a lot of money at this. I'm still only making a couple thousand dollars a month online. But that's four times what I was making online a year ago, and I spend most of my time working on solid long-term projects. I keep searching for more things to do to add to my projects and my online income has been continually increasing since I started, just in small amounts. I have an offline job that I only need to work a few hours a day, but within another 6 months to a year I should reach a point that I can eliminate that job completely. That might not seem like a great accomplishment to anyone looking for the "step by step get rich quick methods", but it still makes me smile every month. Deposits are made in my bank account for things I did all the work a year ago that still brings in a few dollars to a few hundred dollars a month on various websites. I like it enough that each month I keep coming back on here to find more things I can use to start more projects and fine tune my old ones.