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Flippa Seller Question

Discussion in 'Site Flipping' started by joxus01, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. joxus01

    joxus01 Newbie

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    Hi experts at BHW.. What do you guys think about the seller "deana" at flippa? He has sold a total of $169k with 100% feedback.. Is he bidding on his own listing and giving feedbacks to himself?
     
  2. BillyRayValentine

    BillyRayValentine Regular Member

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    Why do you say that? It would be expensive to do at 5% fees + listing fees. $170k would be Nearly $9k of fees!
     
  3. refjaf55

    refjaf55 Regular Member

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    I also feel as if deana is shady. Somehow deana manages to contantly post adsense sites that are claimed to make a certain amount of money for a a certain amount of days. Why would he not just keep them and bank all of the money??? Whenever deana post, the adsense earnings only go back a few days which is also sketchy (when you ask to see further back, deana says that he just bought the site WHERE THE HECK COULD HE BUY A CONSTANT SUPPLY OF SITES MAKING GOOD MONEY ON ADSENSE). I have always seen his sites and I have always been interested in them but they just seem to good to be true. My gut is telling me that the traffic is bought for a few days to build the adsense stats, and then the traffic is still sent in until deana gets the positive rating on flippa from the buyer. If anybody has experience working with deana, and could share what you know, that would be great.

    EDIT: But to answer your question, No, i do not think he is bidding on himself or giving himself good ratings.
     
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  4. rmoses123

    rmoses123 Registered Member

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    it's sounds fishy...
    but looks legit...
    hard decision..
    if you ask me stay away he is not the only one...
     
  5. bzenk

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    Hi Joxus, Thank you for asking question above. Firstly, I am the one you are talking about. I am using deana as my username on Flippa. I already buy and selling website more than 3 years now, at this moment I already have 171k$ in total, and currently still 2 websites during transferred process and 2 websites live in auction. I am not using anything related about bidding army or bidding on my own listing. The website sold as it go. FYI, I have about 800 repeated buyers, you can ask those people who making deal with "deana", they are satisfied that is the reason I have 100% feedback. Not every BHW members do blackhat things in this online business world. If you have any question, feel free to PM me. I don't have so much time to reply this thread. Thanks everyone.

    See attachment how much buyers watching my listing.


    deana-proof.png
     
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  6. whynotmakeit

    whynotmakeit Power Member

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    From my 2 bad experiences on flippa, take no notice of feedback on any seller. You can't enter feedback after a month or less from memory, so after you have found the stats and earnings are pure BS you can't leave bad feedback on the auction you bought. Flippa makes money out of dubious sales and don't care. Note all the feedback is right after the sale..... Buyer beware!!! .....
     
  7. kvmcable

    kvmcable Supreme Member

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    Oh what a bunch of horseshit. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see all your shill bidding patterns. Because Flippa ignores it, don't come on here and advertise. You need more shill accounts to better hide your tracks.

    Secondly, I counted 16 seller accounts linked to yours and many are real shit accounts. This doesn't account for the ones Flippa removed.

    abidkecil ( 100% | $3.75K )
    aura ( )
    Blue Sapphire ( 100% | $5.43K )
    boodut ( 92% | $3.36K )
    build@site ( suspended )
    deana ( 100% | $172K )
    emas ( 90% | $1.41K )
    faiza ( 100% | $225 )
    Jayden ( 97% | $18.8K )
    Lifanobi ( banned )
    nita ( 98% | $9.87K )
    profitablewebs ( )
    Shakira ( new )
    shaquil ( banned )
    swift ( 73% | $707 )
    websitecreator ( banned )

    I don't care about your game but do care when you appear here and pretend you're on the up and up and maybe scam a BHW member. I could go into a lot more details on your shill bidding patterns but I don't have the time.
     
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  8. kvmcable

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    So I took a bit of time while drinking my morning coffee to look over an active website currently running of Flippa for the seller in question.

    Here are some facts about it:

    Domain is an auction purchased domain, purchased Oct, 2012 and built around then.
    Site is not earning the advertised Adsense income of $13 a day because the traffic isn't real.

    How do we know the traffic isn't real? Check the HiStats the seller has been gracious to provide:

    http://www.histats.com/viewstats/?S...1362441601&t_2=1364860801&t_mode=range&t_rg=h

    Click the Browser tab - 33% of his visitors are using Chrome? Seriously? His IE browser should be where Chrome is and Chrome should be where IE is (around 8%)


    http://www.histats.com/viewstats/?S...1362441601&t_2=1364860801&t_mode=range&t_rg=h

    Click the resolution tab - Ummm, 10 years ago those screen resolutions would look somewhat normal. Today almost nobody runs 1024x768 screen resolution, yet the majority of his visitors are still on 10 year old technology. Highly suspect.

    http://www.histats.com/viewstats/?S...1362441601&t_2=1364860801&t_mode=range&t_rg=h

    Click the toolbar tab - 52% of his visitors are running Win64 toolbar with 1024 x 768 resolution? LMAO


    http://www.histats.com/viewstats/?S...1362441601&t_2=1364860801&t_mode=range&t_rg=h

    3403 New Visitors from USA in the last month. Damn that's good. Lets see what Cities they're from:

    http://www.histats.com/viewstats/?S...1362441601&t_2=1364860801&t_mode=range&t_rg=h

    Click the Cities tab - Looks like half of them are from 3 cities, he must have some billboards purchased in those first 3 cities.

    Ok, coffee break is over but if you're going to invest in a solid running business then use all the research tools available from the seller. This seller is playing everyone for a fool, thinking nobody will understand or dig deep into those HiStat statistics.

    He's the fool for running bot traffic and letting us all see it.

    Happy hunting on Flippa.
     
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  9. Punisher

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    With all the obvious wrong doings with deana's auctions, why for God's sake are all those buyers so afraid to leave a freakin NEGATIVE for feedback and quality? Somethings smells fishy here.
     
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    My other concern, why does Flippa continue to turn a blind eye and allow a seller like this have all these obvious linked accounts?

    Possible links to:
    • abidkecil ( 100% | $3.75K )
    • faiza ( 100% | $225 )
    • Jayden ( 97% | $19K )
    • emas ( 90% | $1.41K )
    • nita ( 98% | $9.87K )
     
  11. BillyRayValentine

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    Good analytical skills. Alas that site still sold for $2500.

     
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  12. whynotmakeit

    whynotmakeit Power Member

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    from my experience with flippa, you only have a short time to leave feedback and then can NEVER after that....You no longer have access to do so. Sellers are smart enough to know this timeframe and make sure you don't know the real facts till after this deadline. Flippa make a fortune from these scams...They don't care as they are clipping the ticket. They should be shut down imho....

     
  13. kvmcable

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    Flippa has two feedback methods. The first is for the seller which smart sellers push buyers to leave quickly. As soon as moves are done or sites are delivered the sellers will hound buyers to leave positive feedback. I believe this timeline is 60 days after the sale.

    Flippa has a second feedback (site feedback) they send to select buyers (usually buyers that ignored the seller feedback) that can be left up to 90 days after the listing ends.

    So to keep your Flippa feedback clean while selling shit sites you need to push buyers to leave feedback early with the seller feedback. Then they won't get the site quality feedback notice 30 days later to rate the website you sold them. Notice the number of site feedback comments are a fraction of the seller feedback comments. :)
     
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  14. ContentLockPro

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    I would be careful when buying anything on Flippa and have learned that from experience. That doesn't mean that everything there is bad it just means buyer beware as in most things.
     
  15. leelee111

    leelee111 Newbie

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    Not that I'm trying to claim that Deana's auctions aren't completely legit, I find it strange that he/she/it often claims they can't verify adsense.
    Particularly when this current flippa adsense screenshot seems to have the worst kerning ever on the font for the domain name:
    flippa dot com /auctions/2940735/attachments/874791.png


    flippa dot com / 2940735-641-adsense-last-7-days-women-hairstyle-blog-unique-content-19k-uv-773-kw
    {Auction is at 8k ! and ends soon)


    Same odd kerning showing on domain name in this adsense report on auction that ended yesterday:
    flippa dot com /auctions/2940652/attachments/875742.png


    flippa dot com /2940652-81-adsense-last-13-days-cars-information-blog-unique-content-63-kw

    Any thoughts explaining these weird screenshots ?
     
  16. Sinbad Konick

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    i think there are few sellers who bids on their own auctions using VPS , VPN , Various Computers and More way..

    But as i can see she has 100% of success rate it's fully not been fake..

    may be some of it..but if it's totally fake i would she has a BANK of her from where she makes money and give it to FLIPPA For Free :v as success fee , listing fee, etc etc :p
     
  17. kvmcable

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    What is there to explain? They are all fake. Notice no claimed revenue in the revenue box? Flippa rule says no ability to claim revenue if the website is less than 60 days old so she can't fill it. The rule was created because the odds of a new website being able to earn any money is quite slim in 60 days.

    A better question is why does Flippa allow her (him) to claim revenue in the title and description, complete with fake screenshots in violation of their rule?

    The answer: money.

    Deana, has a ton of fake accounts on the selling side and bidding side. She is the quru of deception. If you want to bank on Flippa (and totally screw buyers) all you need to do is follow her methods.

    Notice her SEMrush results won't work in your SEMrush. Notice the Flippa listing shows no SEMrush numbers which it pulled through SEMrush's API when the listing was listed. Why would Flippa pulling from SEMrush not obtain any numbers but Deana has a screenshot showing SEMrush results? Well we all know why.

    Why doesn't Deana attach pdf files from Analytics? It takes less time than a screenshot to drop the email address in GA and have it sent to Flippa. Of course we know why.

    Why doesn't she use any verified statistics at all? Not verified Adsense, no verified Analytics. Of course if the numbers were real she'd attach her accounts immediately because it offers more credibility. When you're working with fake screenshots you don't attach your accounts. No other excuse really.

    I could go on and on but she's been reported to Flippa at least 100 times and Flippa keeps looking the other way. Her feedback is catching up with her as you can see. One buyer is pissed the ranked keywords all dropped as soon as he purchased the website. - surprise surprise.
     
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  18. leelee111

    leelee111 Newbie

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    So Deana and a million other united scammers from Indonesia (Im sure theyre are lovely honest people in Indo, but majority of Flippa scams show Indo country origin) are still banking hard on Flippa.

    Sell on Sedo !