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First time - My plan to rank a first site

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ratslayer, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. ratslayer

    ratslayer Newbie

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    Long time lurker here, decided to finally try something.

    I have a year old website for my brick and mortar business, the domain is the name of my business (a brand). I've never done any SEO on it. I have about 10 keywords for which I want to rank first page.

    My plan is to create a blog on another domain related to the niche (it's an EMD for one of the keywords I'm targeting). Each page/article will be one of the 10 keywords I want to rank my money site for. And a link to my money site.

    Then I will create around 10 web 2.0s properties, write some articles, insert one link to my buffer blog on each property, and blast the hell out of them.

    cheap poor quality backlinks ==> 10 web 2.0s ==> buffer site ===> money site.

    What do you guys think? Any input would be appreciated.
     
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    Good plan, but you can also make good web 2.0 as your buffer sites.
     
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    I agree with lovers' post above. However, it seems you don't want the link building associated with your main site. If it's your plan to rank the blog and funnel traffic from it to your main site, then by all means proceed with your original plan. Just bear in mind that it will decrease your conversion rate.
     
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  4. ratslayer

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    My main plan is to rank my money site on first page for my keywords. What do you mean by conversion rate?

    I know I can use the web 2.0s as buffer sites between the links and the money site but I already have the other keyword EMD and I want to put it to good use. Any suggestions on what I could do with it besides using it as an extra layer between web 2.0s and the money site?
     
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    What would you guys do if you had a main site (money site) with another exact-match domain with one of the keywords you want to rank for?
     
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    Conversion rate is the rate at which visitors convert into customers. For example, if 100 people visit your website and 5 of them purchase your product/service, then you have a 5% conversion rate. Conversion rate is also applicable to other activities such as email opt ins.

    You can build a regular niche site on the EMD and monetize it while boosting the ranking of your money sitr with links from it. This way the benefits will be twofold (link juice + $$$).

    Do you want to rank both the money site and EMD for the same keywords? If so, building web 2.0s exclusive to your money site would be ideal for greater impact while also doing the same for the EMD.
     
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    you should get some social traffic at the early time via facebook or tweet ( dont order fiverr gig they suck ) - try to make fake facebook account and get friends ( or you can pm your realfriend to help you - just a little but it's still good for indexing and ranking )
     
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  8. ratslayer

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    Thank you for the explanation.

    Actually I don't care about the EMD, my main goal is to rank my money site on 1st page for the keywords. Yes they will use the same keywords. Is this a bad thing? Keeping in mind the fact that I want to use the EMD to boost my money site, is there any other way to do it? Other than targeting the same keywords.

    For every keyword I want to rank for on the money site ===> 1 page/article on the EMD.

    However it's only natural that both sites will start competing since they will target the same keywords. Is this a good or a bad thing?

    So you think I should also build 2.0s exclusive to the money site? I want to isolate my money site from the blasts as much as possible since it's a mortar and brick business, just to be safe.
     
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    Stay away from the poor links, you can certainly do without them.

    It's not the numbers but the quality, originality and relevance unfortunately it's far beyond the scope of the ordinary man.
     
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    Yes there is. You can use titles that don't contain your exact keywords but are still relevant so that your EMD site's pages won't compete with your money site.

    Just modify your titles a bit as suggested above and you'll have nothing to worry about.

    It would only become a bad thing if the EMD outranks the money site.

    In that case, you will have to do more SEO work and spend more money. You could build 10 mini sites like the EMD you currently have, host them on different hosting accounts, promote them with web 2.0s, and link them to your money site. Since you want your money site to be as safe as possible, there are two options you can consider:

    1. Go the completely whitehat way by gaining links to directly to your money site through content marketing (infographics, guest posts, etc.)

    OR

    2. Turn the EMD site into an authority site in your niche, target many relevant low competition keywords related to your business, promote the site until it starts ranking in Google and receiving tons of traffic, then funnel the traffic to your money site.
     
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    I would say there is no point having the "buff site".

    make 10 great web 2.0 sites, then put the sites in GSA, let that automate the backlinks to the web 2.0s, you will get a mix of good and bad quality links from GSA but that doesn't matter.

    GSA automation --> web 2.0 --> money site

    then build other high quality, high PR, links to your money site and do the same.
     
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    any advice on GSA ? this guy is newbie man
    like : footprint and spintax, sir can you can a bit more :D ?
     
  13. motzart

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    I don't think this is a good idea -- google will be able to tell that you are just linking out to one site in your niche... with barely any new content after your first 10 posts.
     
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    Take Action then see results what i follow and tell to others
    cheers
     
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    Tbh, buffer sites work magically. Only if you know how to crack the code :)

    I know MANY won't do this, so it's not a problem for me to out what I do. Mostly because of the cost involved.

    When I start a new site, I get some aged, PR'd domains (Around 20). Then, I host them on different IPs and build sites on them. Each site has variations of number of content, design and CMS. This works like a mini blog network for that certain money site. I drip links and social signals to those sites over a couple of months.

    It works. Every time.
     
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  16. Mr.Nick..

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    Don't use emd as a layer between web2.0 and money site, good web2.0's are probably one of the best type of backlinks you will ever get so you need them to point to money site directly!

    P.S. Ranking first website is just like having sex, I mean really:
    At first you know things theoretically and it's time to practice, but the chances of success is same as to last 20+ minutes on your first time. But failure shouldn't stop you from trying again and again until you reach the 20 minutes, oh sorry I mean #1 position of course :)
     
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  17. ratslayer

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    I have a question, when I create web 2.0s, G can know they are brand new with 0 PR and 0 everything else.
    Won't it be obvious for G that there's something fishy going on when they see, say 5 new web 2.0s, all linking to the same money site?