First page submits are a LIE...what to do?

loveiswar12 · Aug 4, 2011

I've read that many offers labeled as "first page submit" or "converts at email/zip submit" are just BS because the offer doesn't actually convert until the 2nd, 3rd, or 100th page. The thing is, I didn't know it was actually that bad until I tried it myself. I tested many different offers that say they convert on first page/email/zip submits, and they don't convert for shit.

The method I'm currently practicing uses iframes, therefore I'm limited to offers that convert on the first page...so I'm pretty much hitting a roadblock. I don't want to move onto another method until I make money with this one, so I'm dedicated to sticking with iframes for now.

Any advice on what to do in my situation?

Is there a technique to find true first page submits besides testing every single offer with traffic? Is it okay to test them myself?

Any advice will be helpful, and will be appreciated.

ramjetsy7 · Aug 4, 2011

This isn't a technique, but generally, as a rough guide, I find that the easier/quicker the offer is to complete, the lower the payout is.

Jaykub · Aug 4, 2011

LoveStain said:
I've read that many offers labeled as "first page submit" or "converts at email/zip submit" are just BS because the offer doesn't actually convert until the 2nd, 3rd, or 100th page. The thing is, I didn't know it was actually that bad until I tried it myself. I tested many different offers that say they convert on first page/email/zip submits, and they don't convert for shit.

The method I'm currently practicing uses iframes, therefore I'm limited to offers that convert on the first page...so I'm pretty much hitting a roadblock. I don't want to move onto another method until I make money with this one, so I'm dedicated to sticking with iframes for now.

Any advice on what to do in my situation?

Is there a technique to find true first page submits besides testing every single offer with traffic? Is it okay to test them myself?

Any advice will be helpful, and will be appreciated.

OK since i'm a bit more experienced i can help you out , my point of view on this:

first off you have to find a trustworthy network! there are some, who scam or SHAVE!! that means that they only count a small amount of your real conversion(rate)! Also use NORMAL submits instead of incentives coz they tend to get shaved enormously!

the second aspect to keep in mind is: if you have implemented a "hide iframe after submit" or a redirect after submitting the cpa iframe, your pixels won't fire if you do that too fast!!

another thing is, since you stated that you fill out your offers on your own for testing purposes: if your proxy you use got already used, then your submits won't be counted. also if you put in fake information, they won't count as "conversion" either - cpa networks got pretty clever recognition systems

hope this helps you and other newbies out

420lounge · Aug 4, 2011

i dont think i frames are allowed.. and this is why all the adverts are shaving everyone... people taking advantage of the system ruin it for everyone

hurn · Aug 4, 2011

YOu broke their rules and expecting them to be honest. Is that a joke or not. Iframe not allow 99% netowrks and self filleing also not allow. What you can do is that rotate offer with few networks and see what happen?

amcfad2 · Aug 4, 2011

Ya they don't pay out on fraud...

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