fillling CPAs using proxies and imacro

Lets make a little imacro script that opens your CPA link randomly 3 or 4 times a day, and then fill in the form using different proxies.

A fake referer script could be used too, to minimize risks to get caught by the AM.

Would that work?

Im sure some of you do it already

Well you have probably a 90% of getting caught, because the leads won't be converting for the advertiser. Then the advertiser will complain to your AM, and then you will probably start to get screwed up the butt.

TrevDawg said:

Well you have probably a 90% of getting caught, because the leads won't be converting for the advertiser. Then the advertiser will complain to your AM, and then you will probably start to get screwed up the butt.

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yeah but lets improve that :

imagine you have a CPA that is targeted for seniors and third age people for instance, then you could grab old people adresses (in yellow pages, target old names lol) and then build a database full of old people adresses/names/phone/etc and use imacro to fill the forms with these data.
Then the conversion rate should be realistic... what do you think of this?

people like you are the reason why it's harder to get into CPA networks than it was before.

bad fucking idea, don't do it.

carlito said:

yeah but lets improve that :

imagine you have a CPA that is targeted for seniors and third age people for instance, then you could grab old people adresses (in yellow pages, target old names old) and then build a database full of old people adresses/names/phone/etc and use imacro to fill the forms with these data.
Then the conversion rate should be realistic... what do you think of this?

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If you're going through all the trouble, why not cut the middle man and just sell your leads out right?

Not sure what your making per action, but sounds like a waste of time.

Bryan said:

people like you are the reason why it's harder to get into CPA networks than it was before.

bad fucking idea, don't do it.

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calm down dude, its just an idea i want to discuss with people here.

Just tell me you never did some BH to earn money?? then what are you doing on this forum

carlito said:

calm down dude, its just an idea i want to discuss with people here.

Just tell me you never did some BH to earn money?? then what are you doing on this forum

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oh this is BH only forum? my bad, i really thought i saw WH sections here, whoops

lets come back to the subject thanks

It's a blackhat SEO forum, not a blackhat scam forum...

Don't do it man... it's easy to get real leads... just think outside the box! There tons of great methods on here! Just my 2 cents

SpiderWebMaster said:

It's a blackhat SEO forum, not a blackhat scam forum...

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What differs from blanking the referer for example, is it scam too? the philosophy here is the same

carlito said:

What differs from blanking the referer for example, is it scam too? the philosophy here is the same

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No, blanking or faking the referrer is so your affiliate network can't see where you're getting the traffic from. There are plenty of good reasons to do this eg. hiding your PPC / PPV sources or keywords, or hiding your SE rankings. It's also useful as a method for stopping SE bots in their tracks - most bots won't follow a double js redirect including a POST request, for example. Some networks might not like you playing with the referrer, but that's just tough - provided you're sending real leads.

Blackhat != fraud.

yeah, i know some of my friends are working to this direction, he said he operate hundreds of cpa accounts at the same time with this. all of them are auto pilot. i think he is making a good fortune here.

carlito said:

Lets make a little imacro script that opens your CPA link randomly 3 or 4 times a day, and then fill in the form using different proxies.

A fake referer script could be used too, to minimize risks to get caught by the AM.

Would that work?

Im sure some of you do it already

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'Lets make'? I read that as 'Someone please make or give me...'

carlito said:

yeah but lets improve that :

imagine you have a CPA that is targeted for seniors and third age people for instance, then you could grab old people adresses (in yellow pages, target old names lol) and then build a database full of old people adresses/names/phone/etc and use imacro to fill the forms with these data.
Then the conversion rate should be realistic... what do you think of this?

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Nah dude, it won't convert at all. You also would have to actually go out and collect, tabulate/put the info in a database, write the geolocation script, make sure you aren't leaking your referrer, get a bunch of proxies (already not a viable method)...

These people have no interest in the offer you've put their details into, it -will not- convert at all.

carlito said:

calm down dude, its just an idea i want to discuss with people here.

Just tell me you never did some BH to earn money?? then what are you doing on this forum

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This isn't BH, this is pure fraud. There is a difference.

carlito said:

What differs from blanking the referer for example, is it scam too? the philosophy here is the same

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There are lots and lots of good reasons to blank the referrer or to fake it - blackhat is when you send questionable traffic or get your traffic from somewhere you really shouldn't be getting it (innovation, ingenuity, etc.).

Fraud is when you fill out your own offers and the advertiser has absolutely no chance of making money from the leads you send. Fraud is when you trick consumers into filling out offers or mislead them. This is a real problem and puts plenty of advertisers out of business - which you see happen all the time.

If you're sending legitimate leads, and its going to convert for the advertiser, then go as blackhat as you want. Sky is the fucking limit. Don't defraud the consumers or the advertisers though, that's bullshit.

Also keep in mind getting paid scamming CPA networks won't happen. It's a huge goddamn effort to fake this kind of shit, and if you CAN do it, you'd be able to make better money elsewhere

so its a bad idea according most of you, ok lets forget it

Anyway i find this forum is turning more and more angelic

carlito said:

Anyway i find this forum is turning more and more angelic

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definitely, only the glory is missing above our head, but it won't last too long, i have good connections with Himmeltati

btw DP is the new BHW, haven't you heard it yet?!

Not bad, i think when you will use the real data and info it's no problem or i'm wrong?

I'm not judging the ethics of what you wanna do since this is a bh forum but seriously, you need to step your game WAY up if you think about doing something like this. Every network owner with half a brain will catch you after like 2 leads.

carlito said:

calm down dude, its just an idea i want to discuss with people here.

Just tell me you never did some BH to earn money?? then what are you doing on this forum

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Thats not BH thats fucking fraud!

I am sure among all the old people who will receive the doc there must be some who will be interested by the service/product.

And those who are not interested, well, they just have to throw the doc in the trash can, as they do with all the other ads they receive daily in their mail box.

Talking about fraud is way too exagerated. It could be a win/win situation.