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False Facebook Takedown/Fake Intellectual property claim

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by CancerNGONeedsHelp, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. CancerNGONeedsHelp

    CancerNGONeedsHelp Newbie

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    PLEASE HELP ME.. I DONT WANT TO SOUND DESPERATE.. BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I FEEL WRONGED BY THE LOWEST KIND OF SCUM ON THIS PLANET !

    This is my first post here. I used to have an account like 2 years ago which I used to buy some SEO stuff but I don't recall the ID or the Pwd.
    I want to start out by saying that I am not a computer major/SEO expert/Tech guy. I work in para-medical in on the East coast. I help out an NGO that supports cancer patients 100% free. Very brief background since it is relevant - Cancer is the worst disease one could have. Even if an individual's chances of surviving are good...the chemo..the radiation..the surgery.. It is a heart breaking..gut wrenching process. We support people with specifically lung cancer. It is currently the #1 cancer killer in the US. We help people with both procuring completely free medication & completely free mental support. The mental support is really needed. I hope none of you ever have to go through this yourselves or have to see a relative go through it..but it is unbelievably difficult. To keep the spirits high of the people we help, we have a Cancer Survivors Stories page. The contents are just posts written completely by patients and a image which is basically a canva image in which we write something motivational like.. If John can do it..so can you.. Never keep fighting !
    Something like that... The post is completely each and every word written originally by the patients we help. They write it in front of us.. when they are being discharged. All the content is original stuff made by us. Not a word is copied. The posts are long.. 1500 - 3000 words usually. They just talk about their story.. how they would keep their spirits up.There is an individual who makes fake IDs and files complaints to have our posts taken down. I cannot understand for the life of me why someone would do that.. We know that guy.. He is a tech expert of sorts.. He has an axe to grind with one of our team members. His modus operandi:


    If we post something about someone's story..lets say..the guy's name who is the cancer survivor is Billy Newton.. The name is at the start of the post and in the image. Now this jerk who reports us and files intellectual property theft.. makes a fake account called lets say billynewton2373 on any throwaway email site like gmail and files a complaint against the post. And facebook removes it and send us the following bold/underlined stuff in a mail:



    Facebook has removed content posted on your Page because we received a report that the content violates someone else?s intellectual property rights.


    This happened 3 times till now..
    I stayed on the down low for a while after the first 2 times..shut the page down..only to restart it a couple weeks later and to post new stuff.. and hadhim complain about me again and it was again taken down.. right now I am banned from posting vids/photos for 1 week.

    Then I saw this a post on a website called readwrite.. basically u can google: "readwrite anyone can deleted facebook fake email".I tried to post a url to the article I am asking you to google..but I am new so BHW asked me to remove it..just google the above and u will see their post..they had same issues.
    These guys I guess maybe had the same issue. I mean..our stuff is like the definition of 100% original content.. but still this is happening ??
    We have around 50K or so likes.. all real genuine people.. each post gets 3000 or so likes.. 1000 or so shares and 500 or so comments. All 100% genuine. The FB page doesn't point to anything... no website no nothing.. there is no monetization anywhere of anything..we just wanted to help..we thought of a good idea and surprisingly many people were benefitted and it took off on it's own.. that's all.. I am no genius.. people just wanted to hear real stories of real people..

    I mean.. we are no one in front of em..but doesn't humans of NY do the same ? I mean not of cancer survivors..but just regular people's stories..

    You know..to be honest.. I was tired of all this.. I decided to call it quits.. I thought its ok..we don't need a FB page.. But then I started getting messages.. people who had posted their stories..they messaged me and asked me where is everything gone.. people who have conditions who read our stuff for strength messaged me.. Where is it all ? They said.. I read your page when I was down and dejected.. its gone now !! I am gonna try one last time.. if there is any idea you lot can give me to prevent this.. should I not use names of people ? I see he misused that as he made names exactly same as the individual in the story. I had names 2 places.. in post and image both..

    I will really appreciate help.. I have no idea what to do and we have used such a lot of energy behind this. You know, I mean, I don't want to sound all melodramatic and all.. but to put it bluntly.. this guy is a low life... I mean.. who does this ? To a not for profit ? We help people who could be dying in like 10 weeks ! I mean.. this is just unbelievably low.

    Please help me I will sincerely appreciate it.. What can I do to prevent this.. don't ask me to talk to him.. I know it wont work.. help wil be much appreciated.. I am no expert..and know nothing
     
  2. islandman1010

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    Posting this many times in different threads will just get you banned. If someone wants to or can help you I am sure they will come along.
     
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  3. CancerNGONeedsHelp

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    Hey I posted in the FB area and then I saw a post here from a while ago on a similar issue and I thought I should post here too.. Its at 2 places (including this one).. I am very sorry.. I didn't know I couldn't do this.. Please forgive my ignorance it will not happen again. :-/
     
  4. ppaizon217

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    I did not bother read more than 5 lines, but cancer is a disease like others. Easily fixed. If peoples just were to do their research and experiments, they would know. Countless doctors and chemists who cured it with 100% success rate in different ways with hundreds of patients as testimonials even in court (for the ones taken to court for not having a "medical license").
    At the end, as always, the choice is yours, and comes down to one. Do everything to live, or do everything to die.
    You, my friend, even if I did not read the whole post, are doing everything to die, because it seems you need some kind of help. But you could procure that kind of help, whichever it is, yourself. Just like you expect someone else to be able to help you.

    Cya.
     
  5. CashMoneyMantra

    CashMoneyMantra Registered Member

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    This guy knows his stuff.

    OP, you need to get on fiverr and look for some chakra healings. There are many certified members of the wizard's guild on there and for just $5 they will cure your cancer.
     
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    Wow. You didn't even bother to read the entire thing, yet you're giving advice on how to proceed.

    If you'd read the rest of it you'd know that OP is helping an NGO that supports cancer patients, and they have a FB page for their operation. It's under attack by someone who's got an axe to grind.

    OP isn't asking for medical advice. He's asking for advice on how to stop the attacks on the FB page.

    I hope you feel as stupid as your post is.
     
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  7. CancerNGONeedsHelp

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    Thanks for being the only one here who cares to actually read !
    That guy asked me to go to fiverr and cure cancer for $5.. lolz..


    Anyways.. Would you have any idea how to go about this ?
     
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    Idk how practical these suggestions are, since I don't work with FB for the very reason that it is finnicky and stupid, but I'll give them to you anyway.

    - Does your NGO have a website? Try posting the testimonials to your website.
    - Have the people who give you testimonies sign a form saying they gave you permission to post the testimonies on FB. You should also get a copy of their ID to go with the form, and their phone number. That way, if he makes that claim again, you've got proof to show to FB. Hell, they can even call them (thus the phone number), though I sincerely doubt FB would go through all that trouble.
    - Try not posting pictures or using full names. Just use initials. The initials could belong to anyone. Then you can say something like "For the full story, please click through here: (link)" Dealing with content on your website is a whole other beast. And if you've got the documents to prove that the person gave you permission to post on your website, your host is just going to ignore that bastard.
    - When you take pictures of the client, try to do it in locations where it's impossible for him to use that photo as an ID. Take a picture of someone with food in their mouth or drinking a bottle of water. Better yet, if the person has a FB page, ask them if you can use a pic off their wall - or a REALLY OLD pic of them. Make it a group pic, or a pic that'll be difficult for him to Photoshop.

    Like I said, I have no idea how practical any of this is. Someone else could come in and just debunk all of my suggestions. I wouldn't be upset because I don't know anything about FB. I hope someone else who knows FB and knows how this thing works can help you out.

    I hope this helps.
     
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  9. Dante12

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    You're doing a good thing OP, it's a shame you have to deal with a guy like that...

    I think you'll need to start your own website, put the link to it on the FB bio and post the stories there, not on FB. With time people will start going straight to the site and you won't need FB.

    Make the site, make a post about it on the FB page and spend like $10 on FB ads only to your followers to get the word out.
     
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  10. CancerNGONeedsHelp

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    Thanks a lot Dante and AlwaysInvisible.. I sincerely appreciate it !

    If I could ask one more thing.. This is my plan.. could you please find even the minutest flaw you can in it.. I mean.. that guy is a psycho..he will try to harass us even there..
    1. I will get a domain and hosting (wordpress on bluehost)
    2. I will integrate everything within FB i.e. Call to action..etc
    3. I will make the following post.. exactly the following is going to be my format:
    One pic from Canva.. nothing in it.. just the URL of the new domain and a motivational quote in the image. but filtered and all..to get more clicks on it..
    The post would be like:

    ---- Cancer Survival Stories : Beat Lung Cancer ----
    To read the full story CLICK : (url)

    'LIKE' this post to congratulate the poster for a cancer free life !
    'SHARE' this post..Let's beat cancer together !
    Have a question ? 'COMMENT' below, we respond to every comment !

    Below this would be the image just to catch more eyeballs




    How does this sound ?
    No names will be written anywhere in the FB post or the image... I don't think he can claim copyright for this.
     
  11. CashMoneyMantra

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    Does anyone know what facebook's attitude towards pinning a post talking about the situation and naming the guy would do? It could be seen as libellous, but wouldn't he have to actually challenge it?

    You could set up a trap for him. Put the stories on a page on your website, each individually, then link the page in each of the stories. He will probably visit (I imagine it will be low traffic so it should stand out) a short time before reporting. Then you may be able to share this IP of the identified person with facebook and he may be banned.

    Is there a way to grab a persons facebook name when they visit a page?

    Also you could use stock images to trap him into revealing his accounts are fake.

    E: Found these two links after a quick browse if anyone wants to look into it deeper, I'm so tired I'm struggling to read beyond a few sentences at this point though

    http://www.tomanthony.co.uk/blog/detect-visitor-social-networks/

    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...er-in-facebook-without-requesting-for-his-her
     
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