fairfax2810 a new scammer on BHW

Paypal Name:- Ciprian-Vlad Gherga
Paypal ID from where I got funds:- [email protected]
BHW name:- fairfax2810

so here is the story this guy added me to his yahoo messenger yesterday and asked me that he needs 500 youtube accounts. I asked his BHW name and all details and he provided. then he processed $100 to my paypal and I provided him 500 accounts immediately. I will post the whole chatting conversation later.

Now today morning I found he opened a dispute on paypal that he didn't receive any account.
Here is copied form paypal what he wrote:-

From Buyer: Ciprian-Vlad Gherga on 27/01/2010 16:11 PST
i didnt recieve my products and i want a refund

From Buyer: Ciprian-Vlad Gherga on 27/01/2010 14:27 PST
he should create me some accounts on some websites and he didnt do anything the payment was proceded today so i can make a refound i supose

WTF? I can't understand why he is doing this with me? He is not replying to my messages on Yahoo so guys please help me what to do? as paypal has deducted $100 from my accounts and I have also sent him 500 accounts.

Please mods help me. I am still waiting for his reply. Do you guys can help me to get my funds?

Edit:- I suspect he is the same guy which were kicked out from BHW in December for using abusive words for me.

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^^ well I am asking how I can resolve this dispute man. I am not asking how I can prevent from it? If you read carefully he has already paid me money upfront but he has opened a dispute on paypal calming that he didn't received any accounts form me.

he has 0 post, i can bet he has other accounts here and he was just going to scam you :/

Didn't mean to be blunt but PayPal are notorious for being fucking asholes and nearly always side with the customer.

Hence they are often quite rightly referred to as GayPal.

Anyhow did you just email him the accounts? Maybe you can rush and change all the passwords if it is not too late!?

Its a bitch with Paypal. At the bottom of the email with the dispute there should be an email for them. Copy the dispute number and put it in the title and forward all email transcripts as well as all chats with him to paypal. Also tell them what you do, its technological trade. (ive done it dont worry they wont hunt you down and prosecute)


also, call them and tell them and ask how to fight it.

@jaerehan Yep I know that but he is also an old member of BHW.

dheer said:

^^ Yep I know that but he is also an old member of BHW. but how I can resolve and get my funds? I need you to answer that dude.

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The only real way to get them, he releases the dispute.


Either that or Paypal amazingly hands them back.


Other than that, slam him here till he responds.

Ok, call up paypal and tell them that the you perform a seo marketing service that was non-tangible. Paypal do not do refunds for non-tangible sales. Also tell them he is trying to scam you. I believe there is specific dispute department at paypal, so ask the customer representative to connect you there.

I have experienced scammers trying to rip me off for non-tangible sales, and I've won every one.

blazen said:

Ok, call up paypal and tell them that the you perform a seo marketing service that was non-tangible. Paypal do not do refunds for non-tangible sales. Also tell them he is trying to scam you. I believe there is specific dispute department at paypal, so ask the customer representative to connect you there.

I have experienced scammers trying to rip me off for non-tangible sales, and I've won every one.

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Hi Blazen should I close talking with him and escalate the issue with paypal?

dheer said:

Hi Blazen should I close talking with him and escalate the issue with paypal?

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First I go straight to calling paypal to be connected with the dispute department. Also tell them how you already tried contacting with him but he will not respond, and trying to scam you of your service. From there you can ask the paypal dispute person what is next best step for you to do.

but where to call? I am here in India. Could you please tell me the telephone # to contact that dispute department.

Here is the whole chatting session with him:-

dhpd22 (1/27/2010 9-24-32 AM)- hi
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 9-25-07 AM)- if you need youtube accounts then plz process $20 to [email protected] to my paypal or MB ID and I ll send you 100 youtubes immediately.
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-09-26 PM)- hi
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-09-32 PM)- hi
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-09-41 PM)- im from bhw
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-09-47 PM)- any yt accounts for sale dude?
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-09-52 PM)- yep
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-09-57 PM)- how much u need
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-10-05 PM)- like 500
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-10-08 PM)- alright
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-10-16 PM)- plz process $100 to [email protected].i
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-10-22 PM)- sorry [email protected]
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-10-28 PM)- and I ll send u accs now
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-10-38 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-11-03 PM)- wait 15 min il pm you cause i need to get home
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-11-14 PM)- alright
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-12-11 PM)- the time for delivery will be?
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-12-28 PM)- Just 2 minutes after processing funds
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-12-33 PM)- ah
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-12-33 PM)-
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-12-34 PM)- nice
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-12-38 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 6-12-54 PM)- ok wait for me man il be back
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 6-13-01 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-09-41 PM)- hi man
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-09-54 PM)- hi
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-09-58 PM)- can you tell me your paypal again
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-10-04 PM)- i can send you the payment now
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-10-07 PM)- [email protected]
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-10-16 PM)- the paypals are all verified
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-10-29 PM)- can u tell me ur bhw ID?
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-10-31 PM)- the yt*
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-10-37 PM)- yes verfied
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-10-38 PM)- fairfax2810
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-10-56 PM)- cause i see now that youtub e is asking for a phone number verification
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-11-17 PM)- can u gimme ur profile link dude
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-11-22 PM)- are we dealing first time?
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-11-28 PM)- yes
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-11-30 PM)- i think
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-11-41 PM)- can u provide me ur profile link
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-11-43 PM)- I can't find u
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-11-47 PM)- wait
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-01 PM)- sorry as one guy ripped me off
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-07 PM)- he paid me $175 and took accounts
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-12 PM)- then a charge back
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-16 PM)-
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-12-31 PM)-
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-12-42 PM)- you can send me the accounts in the paypal email
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-12-43 PM)- its ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-12-44 PM)-
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-50 PM)- ha great yes
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-13-05 PM)- I always did that
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-13-15 PM)- but that guy wanted me to provide acc to another ID
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-18 PM)- dhpd22
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-26 PM)- this is your bhw id
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-13-27 PM)- yes thats my ID
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-27 PM)- ??
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-13-29 PM)- nah
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-13-31 PM)- Dheer
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-13-32 PM)- is my ID
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-34 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-35 PM)- wait
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-40 PM)- il send you a message
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-41 PM)- there
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-13-42 PM)-
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-13-54 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-15-25 PM)- ok sent
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-15-34 PM)- you replace the accounts in 72 hours ?
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-15-42 PM)- ok thanks
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-15-48 PM)- if something goes wrong all are suspended or something
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-15-59 PM)- in case if they are unused
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-14 PM)- my last outsourcer sold me a list of 1k and all were banned in 1 week
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-16-19 PM)- oh
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-16-25 PM)- but try me once
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-29 PM)- 600 accounts unussed
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-16-31 PM)- and you won't regret
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-33 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-34 PM)- man
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-38 PM)- il send you the payment
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-39 PM)- wait
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-41 PM)- 1 min
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-16-42 PM)- k
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-16-42 PM)-
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-17-11 PM)- lol u never posted a thread on bhw
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-17-18 PM)- even a single post..
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-17-36 PM)- no only private
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-17-52 PM)- hmm u r a silent hunter
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-18-00 PM)- i dont use this forum just for outsourcer im brads forum member
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-18-01 PM)- must be making good money
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-18-09 PM)- brads?
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-18-16 PM)-
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-18-44 PM)- search dm and you will find out about a dark private forum
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-18-51 PM)- bhw i mean *
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-19-00 PM)- http-//bradforums.net/
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-19-02 PM)- ??
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-19-34 PM)- )
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-19-38 PM)- nah
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-19-45 PM)- ooops
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-19-53 PM)- The money has been sent!
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-20-04 PM)- alright
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-20-15 PM)- allow me 2 minutes
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-20-20 PM)- to check and send u accs
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-20-24 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-20-40 PM)- can you atach the emails also
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-20-57 PM)- yes I ll send u emails u can access both with same
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-21-03 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-21-10 PM)- thanks
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-21-29 PM)- [email protected]
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-21-35 PM)- I ll send to this ID
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-21-36 PM)- ok?
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-23-15 PM)- ok man
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-23-30 PM)- are u frm US?
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-23-44 PM)- no europe
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-23-49 PM)- alright
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-24-51 PM)- you are also providing facebook pva`s?
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-25-11 PM)- nah
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-27-02 PM)- alright
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-27-04 PM)- accounts sent
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-27-29 PM)- let me check
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-27-34 PM)- k
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-28-13 PM)- wrote u an iTrader on bhw plz write me back thanks
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-28-29 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-30-20 PM)- the file is broken
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-30-28 PM)- can you send a wordpad document
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-30-32 PM)- or a xls
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-30-38 PM)- ok ll send xls
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-30-42 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-30-45 PM)- tnx
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-30-58 PM)- or if u want in notepad?
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-31-24 PM)- dosent mather
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-31-40 PM)- ok
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-31-44 PM)- now is working
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-31-46 PM)- thats man
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-31-50 PM)-
Quality assurance (1/27/2010 7-32-22 PM)- il pm you with the feedback
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-32-33 PM)- ok thanks

still waiting for his reply.

dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-01 PM)- sorry as one guy ripped me off
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-07 PM)- he paid me $175 and took accounts
dhpd22 (1/27/2010 7-12-12 PM)- then a charge back

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With this you just gave him the id

unknwn said:

With this just gave him the id

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sorry I didn't get you but yes that guy which tried to rip me off for $175 I got funds released..

brads forum is wpblackhat btw. its a closed forum where ugain access only with payment

mainly id call paypal exactly as blazen mentioned

iglow said:

brads forum is wpblackhat btw. its a closed forum where ugain access only with payment

mainly id call paypal exactly as blazen mentioned

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Where to call dude? I don't have any number of paypal and also What blazen wrote there I didn't completely understood. He said there is a paypal email under dispute mail yes I found a Paypal email ID but there is no @ sign and nothing else. I am a bit confused.

GayPal is always from customer side.
Try to call Gaypal's acc rep

Update the scam artist is posting such messages on paypal:-

From Seller: Dheeraj Swami on 28/01/2010 03:19 PST

As I said I have provided you SEO services. I have provided you the accounts and again it was not a physical goods it was just services. and don't worry if you don't want to resolve it I know how to get this issue to be solved.

From Seller: Dheeraj Swami on 28/01/2010 03:17 PST

Also it was not a physical product. It was services which I have provided you. There was nothing to ship. I have mailed you the non-tangible/virtual product.. now what else you want? and why are you not replying there on Yahoo? It is not a good strategy dude. God is seeing you.

From Buyer: Ciprian-Vlad Gherga on 28/01/2010 03:16 PST

what did you provide me exacly??? you were supose to give me something and you gave me something else so... i didnt get my product.......

From Seller: Dheeraj Swami on 28/01/2010 03:15 PST

Also it was not a physical product. It was services which I have provided you. There was nothing to ship. I have mailed you the non-tangible/virtual product.. now what else you want? and why are you not replying there on Yahoo? It is not a good strategy dude. God is seeing you.

From Seller: Dheeraj Swami on 28/01/2010 03:13 PST

Well what do you mean come there on Yahoo and talk to me. I provided you two times. I mailed you the file and also sent you via messaging window I have whole conversation logged. Don't worry.I want you to solve this matter. I have provided you services and now you are trying to scam me? why?

From Buyer: Ciprian-Vlad Gherga on 28/01/2010 03:10 PST

ok whats the big thing i didnt recieve my products and i want a refund it didnt pass 24 hours so thats possible i guess