Ok so long story short, well this may be a long story so nevermind that statement... Here's my setup:
1. Niche: Diet / Skincare
2. Hosting: BeyondHosting
3. Tools: Yes, BlackJack for cloaking, and SocialAdNinja/WRW
4. Funding: Local, reputable US Bank (checkcards, Bank of America, US Bank, Citibank, etc) - NO VCCs, etc.
5. Accounts: New accounts (or friends/family aged), new (or formatted) computer, new ISP, new domain, new host ip, Ccleaner, etc.
6. I've even made "fake" websites with 10+ pages to make it look like a legit company when cloaking (not just pulling random sites).
So I thought I'd take a minute to vent here and hopefully get some opinions on this matter. I was spending around $300 a day, and grossing around $1000+. I would only have my account run for a few days, then boom - ban hammer. I would constantly write down in a log what occurred to trigger the ban, and I have a good idea as to why (this happened a few times). The first time (ran: 5days?); I did a simple "I'm gonna change my own credit card to a different one on the 4-5th day" - I then got the "suspicious activity ban", I then submitted my DL/CC and they replied saying "decisions Final, Efffff offf" - it made no dam sense... The second time (ran 0 days); I used my sisters account but got banned for no reason (new ip, new domain, new host, new computer, card matching her name, etc). I was told to submit the ID, and similar to the step prior I submitted the ID/CC and was told to eff off. I was then told by someone that "the cookies" in the computer should be unique to the account (meaning it should be a computer the person commonly uses). This leads me to the third time(ran 0 days); this time I used my moms account and straight up said I need to borrow your laptop (she lives down the street, same ISP provider). I used her laptop with no changes, just a new ip (xx.xx.yyy.yyy) (Y's were different) - boom, ban hammer. Fourth time(ran 0 days) I bought an aged account from that "fbfbfbf" guy in the BST. That stuff got banned within an hour, I don't see how anyone's successfully using those accounts (unless its just for popularity, friends, status updates, etc). Naturally, when he sends you an account of a 23 y/o female in Florida made with a proxy or offshore IP, and I'm a 25 y/o male in California USA - I would suspect a flag of some sort.... But blah to that... The fifth time (ran 4-5 days); I made an account in my name again (1st step) and used my cc/but new ip, etc. This worked, for about 4-5 days. Everyday I intentionally pushed it to see what would cause the ban. The last day, I used a "celebrity" name in the ad title. This time, I got a "oooppps something went wrong" error (check my posts to see original thread). But it wasn't the suspicious activity message. Regardless of what they may seem to say or think, I feel thats what caused it...
Enough of the ranting, my questions.
1. I'm not trying to do anything "illegal". Am I going to walk away from FB? No... 90% of the people on this forum probably don't pursue the thoughts and just read.. So my first question is this; how are people successfully buying accounts and using the "ads" option of those accounts? As outlined above, if you were to buy some female account of a 23 y/o girl in say New York and you live out in Arizona or something, wouldn't that in its self trigger some sort of flag?
2. What does Facebook look for regarding billing? I'm literally gonna go get in my car and go to Bank of America, US Bank, Wells Fargo, Chase, local credit unions and open up 10 different checking accounts and get 10 different visa debit cards. From what I read, VCC's don't work.... When one account gets banned, ill just call the bank and say I lost the card and have them issue me a new 16 digit card number. But yeah this question; does facebook only check the IP location, zip code of the card (to see if they somewhat are nearby)? Or do they have some special took to somehow see the address on the card? If that's the case I'd have to get 10 addresses or something... I mean when you go to the gas stations here in America they only ask for the zip code, so I would assume facebook would possibly only verify the zip code and make sure your ip comes from that zip code (or within a radius of it)?
3. This whole "aged account thing"; I think its a myth... The first time (listed above) my account was 2 years old, but the last time my account was 24 hours old. So do you guys still believe "aged accounts work"? I mean I'd assume as long as everything was still legit all would be fine...
4. How do people buy "high limit accounts"? Then again my same questions with question 1. If the high limit account beloned to a 50 y/o male in New York and you lived in California, how the hell could you possibly use such an account? I mean if you used a NY proxy, I guess that might work? But when you put down your California CC, wouldnt that create a flag?
5. Is facebook just against diet and skincare? I check social adninja and nothing seems to really run more than 20 days. It's almost as if they hate diet/skincare.
..........My problem is I can't run and this bothers me. Especially when I was making $1k a day ($30k a month). I was just testing too, I could only imagine if I scaled. Any thoughts, arguments, rebuttals, critics would be much appreciated. I'm open to whatever at this point.
1. Niche: Diet / Skincare
2. Hosting: BeyondHosting
3. Tools: Yes, BlackJack for cloaking, and SocialAdNinja/WRW
4. Funding: Local, reputable US Bank (checkcards, Bank of America, US Bank, Citibank, etc) - NO VCCs, etc.
5. Accounts: New accounts (or friends/family aged), new (or formatted) computer, new ISP, new domain, new host ip, Ccleaner, etc.
6. I've even made "fake" websites with 10+ pages to make it look like a legit company when cloaking (not just pulling random sites).
So I thought I'd take a minute to vent here and hopefully get some opinions on this matter. I was spending around $300 a day, and grossing around $1000+. I would only have my account run for a few days, then boom - ban hammer. I would constantly write down in a log what occurred to trigger the ban, and I have a good idea as to why (this happened a few times). The first time (ran: 5days?); I did a simple "I'm gonna change my own credit card to a different one on the 4-5th day" - I then got the "suspicious activity ban", I then submitted my DL/CC and they replied saying "decisions Final, Efffff offf" - it made no dam sense... The second time (ran 0 days); I used my sisters account but got banned for no reason (new ip, new domain, new host, new computer, card matching her name, etc). I was told to submit the ID, and similar to the step prior I submitted the ID/CC and was told to eff off. I was then told by someone that "the cookies" in the computer should be unique to the account (meaning it should be a computer the person commonly uses). This leads me to the third time(ran 0 days); this time I used my moms account and straight up said I need to borrow your laptop (she lives down the street, same ISP provider). I used her laptop with no changes, just a new ip (xx.xx.yyy.yyy) (Y's were different) - boom, ban hammer. Fourth time(ran 0 days) I bought an aged account from that "fbfbfbf" guy in the BST. That stuff got banned within an hour, I don't see how anyone's successfully using those accounts (unless its just for popularity, friends, status updates, etc). Naturally, when he sends you an account of a 23 y/o female in Florida made with a proxy or offshore IP, and I'm a 25 y/o male in California USA - I would suspect a flag of some sort.... But blah to that... The fifth time (ran 4-5 days); I made an account in my name again (1st step) and used my cc/but new ip, etc. This worked, for about 4-5 days. Everyday I intentionally pushed it to see what would cause the ban. The last day, I used a "celebrity" name in the ad title. This time, I got a "oooppps something went wrong" error (check my posts to see original thread). But it wasn't the suspicious activity message. Regardless of what they may seem to say or think, I feel thats what caused it...
Enough of the ranting, my questions.
1. I'm not trying to do anything "illegal". Am I going to walk away from FB? No... 90% of the people on this forum probably don't pursue the thoughts and just read.. So my first question is this; how are people successfully buying accounts and using the "ads" option of those accounts? As outlined above, if you were to buy some female account of a 23 y/o girl in say New York and you live out in Arizona or something, wouldn't that in its self trigger some sort of flag?
2. What does Facebook look for regarding billing? I'm literally gonna go get in my car and go to Bank of America, US Bank, Wells Fargo, Chase, local credit unions and open up 10 different checking accounts and get 10 different visa debit cards. From what I read, VCC's don't work.... When one account gets banned, ill just call the bank and say I lost the card and have them issue me a new 16 digit card number. But yeah this question; does facebook only check the IP location, zip code of the card (to see if they somewhat are nearby)? Or do they have some special took to somehow see the address on the card? If that's the case I'd have to get 10 addresses or something... I mean when you go to the gas stations here in America they only ask for the zip code, so I would assume facebook would possibly only verify the zip code and make sure your ip comes from that zip code (or within a radius of it)?
3. This whole "aged account thing"; I think its a myth... The first time (listed above) my account was 2 years old, but the last time my account was 24 hours old. So do you guys still believe "aged accounts work"? I mean I'd assume as long as everything was still legit all would be fine...
4. How do people buy "high limit accounts"? Then again my same questions with question 1. If the high limit account beloned to a 50 y/o male in New York and you lived in California, how the hell could you possibly use such an account? I mean if you used a NY proxy, I guess that might work? But when you put down your California CC, wouldnt that create a flag?
5. Is facebook just against diet and skincare? I check social adninja and nothing seems to really run more than 20 days. It's almost as if they hate diet/skincare.
..........My problem is I can't run and this bothers me. Especially when I was making $1k a day ($30k a month). I was just testing too, I could only imagine if I scaled. Any thoughts, arguments, rebuttals, critics would be much appreciated. I'm open to whatever at this point.