F*** Google, Time for the SEO Revolution

there is nothing that has been said here that i don't agree with...

the only thing i would add is that you need to diversify your income and your lead sources for your money sites...

i know this is easier said then done, but should be sought after nonetheless...
 
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ibmethatswhoib said:
If there were always people like you nothing would get changed because people would just say deal with it.
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What and you think out of the billions of people using Google, Google is going to change because some kid told his mum and dad to use Bing instead? The threads on here get more and more ridiculous each day.
 
Every change and revolution in the past has started small, you think all the sudden billions of people wake up one day and say I think I'll just use Bing. It's like everything that happens, it happens over time smart one.

mickyfu said:
What and you think out of the billions of people using Google, Google is going to change because some kid told his mum and dad to use Bing instead? The threads on here get more and more ridiculous each day.
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mickyfu said:
What and you think out of the billions of people using Google, Google is going to change because some kid told his mum and dad to use Bing instead? The threads on here get more and more ridiculous each day.
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really. I mean one would think having internet access daily from home, would be enough to grab some global information and make a living.. But I guess not. Google is so fking big right now, you can be a nobody in the big trade bubble.. isn't that just the bomb?..

1 roadblock and they go to a dayjob.. rather shoot me now.

/rant
 
Yes and why the little kiddies sit around thinking they are going to cause the next big revolution, I think I will just continue to bank with Google. As mentioned earlier, there have been many many many Google updates, difference these days is every kid thinks he is an SEO guru. SEO is about adapting to situations, people who do not understand this do not understand SEO.
 
The irony of the company google, "We want to stop persons from ranking relevant content for a keyword regardless of quality if there is any automation, To stop this we automate the process."

But it's not a matter of stopping it's a matter of war. The main purpose of war is to destroy the economy of a country. Thus we need an all out war against google. It might be a bit time consuming and a bit costly but the ending pay offs should be very much either a big dent in google's system or they have to sit back and allow spammers to prevail.

If we should really start attack authority sites left right and center with scrapebox/xrumer what will happen?
Sites of good quality will fall.
Sites making a living off google will fall.
Persons would be less encouraged to try and get their website on google.

So overall: Adsense revenue falls and people are less encouraged as some low quality sites are ranking top whilst they have been penalized for nothing. Yes I do understand that people would get hit hard if this were to happen, but that's war. One nation starts it, Many innocents get caught in fire, 1 nation prevails.

Edit: To all you persons saying "You think google will change because blah blah", Keep in mind it only takes a spark to start a fire.
 
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Then you have the other side that can only think about themselves and think they can't change anything. To each is own, I think I can adapt and cause change around me for the better and I'm glad there are others like me that make it happen, even if it starts small. I make a living with my own sites and client sites but I also see what G has done to small business and legit people trying to make a living, if people can't see what a problem it's becoming with the big players owning more and more results and pushing more and more people out then I can't help you. So keep bitching about people trying to change things and enjoy, you might want to stop reading these F google threads and start making more money.
 
The best SEO'ers I know and I know some really good ones have got hit as well as gone up.
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- So.. I guess you don't know any real SEO'ers.

I'm glad your little PR 0 either burn and churn or little niche site is ranking well but that doesn't prove shit.
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-It's not a churn and burn. This is one of my sites that I have been working on from August, and got the results after penguin. BTW PR Doesn't matter to me, I believe in rankings not PRs.

You obviously haven't been doing SEO long if you haven't been hit, even the best do, so stfu with your smug all mighty attitude.
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- I am dealing with a large quantity of websites for SEO [My own sites] for competitive niches. I have been doing SEO for years. I first got hit from the First Panda Update, and then for Penguin, but I kept experimenting and learning, not creating useless threads and fucking with people here like you.


I would suggest you gtfo or start learning SEO. BTW do you know Tommy, Shailzrocks, Scritty, etc? Have you ever read any of their posts or threads? Have you ever seen them creating shitty threads like this one? Nope! That is why you are here.


I am here to accept any challenge. Your so called SEO'ers are also welcome, and prove to you kids that SEO is not dead and google is not a pimp.
 
@Stfrank I believe websites from august weren't affected. The new update was implemented in september and I believe websites up to 2 months old weren't passed through the filter.
 
ibmethatswhoib said:
I think I can adapt and cause change around me for the better and I'm glad there are others like me that make it happen, even if it starts small.
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But are you really making a change? I think you will find the answer is no. These threads serve on purpose and one purpose only and that is for the amusement of Matt Cutts to get his jollies off.
 
mickyfu said:
No, you will not, you will probably just be caught up in bitching over Google. Believe it or not, Google has had many of updates since it began. The only difference these days is every kid with a laptop thinks he is an internet genius, SEO guru, when to be honest, they are not. Rank sites and bank, bitching will get you nowhere.
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Nailed it.

As time goes on, more people get in on IM, which leaves more people complaining about updates, while the minority making bank are sitting there laughing.
 
So I don't know any real SEO'ers but you yourself said you got hit during panda and penguin hah nice one.

PR doesn't matter, I was just saying 1 website your showing us your great results doesn't mean shit and just makes you look like a jackass from boasting while others are saying they got hit.

I'm fine with SEO, I make a living off of it through clients in serious niches and my own sites ranking. I and others never said we can't rank and want to give up, when did we say this?

If you want to quote Scritty, yes you will see him complain about G00gle a lot and their jacked up results, so try again.

Were not saying SEO is dead, LISTEN...We're saying it's getting worse and worse and if you can't see how bad the results are and how skewed they are towards the big boys. If you haven't seen Amazon dominating and yelp and yellow pages dominating for local keywords as well as other garbage, you're pretty oblivious. It's only getting worse, is why people are pissed. I and others aren't saying give up SEO is dead, I'm not sure why people can't grasp that you can adapt and still be upset and want to change things as they go downhill.

stfrank said:
- So.. I guess you don't know any real SEO'ers.


-It's not a churn and burn. This is one of my sites that I have been working on from August, and got the results after penguin. BTW PR Doesn't matter to me, I believe in rankings not PRs.



- I am dealing with a large quantity of websites for SEO [My own sites] for competitive niches. I have been doing SEO for years. I first got hit from the First Panda Update, and then for Penguin, but I kept experimenting and learning, not creating useless threads and fucking with people here like you.


I would suggest you gtfo or start learning SEO. BTW do you know Tommy, Shailzrocks, Scritty, etc? Have you ever read any of their posts or threads? Have you ever seen them creating shitty threads like this one? Nope! That is why you are here.


I am here to accept any challenge. Your so called SEO'ers are also welcome, and prove to you kids that SEO is not dead and google is not a pimp.
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ibmethatswhoib said:
So I don't know any real SEO'ers but you yourself said you got hit during panda and penguin hah nice one.

PR doesn't matter, I was just saying 1 website your showing us your great results doesn't mean shit and just makes you look like a jackass from boasting while others are saying they got hit.

I'm fine with SEO, I make a living off of it through clients in serious niches and my own sites ranking. I and others never said we can't rank and want to give up, when did we say this?

If you want to quote Scritty, yes you will see him complain about G00gle a lot and their jacked up results, so try again.

Were not saying SEO is dead, LISTEN...We're saying it's getting worse and worse and if you can't see how bad the results are and how skewed they are towards the big boys. If you haven't seen Amazon dominating and yelp and yellow pages dominating for local keywords as well as other garbage, you're pretty oblivious. It's only getting worse, is why people are pissed. I and others aren't saying give up SEO is dead, I'm not sure why people can't grasp that you can adapt and still be upset and want to change things as they go downhill.
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If yellow pages is dominating you, then your clients should fire you.
 
Just because it's showing up everywhere doesn't mean it's dominating me. I guess you guys enjoy what the serps look like or don't give a shit, that's fine but don't open these threads if you're tired of it or tired of people that are upset over it or are venting. Because if that's your logic, you should stop reading these and start working on your sites, if you're bitching about people bitching.
 
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ibmethatswhoib said:
So I don't know any real SEO'ers but you yourself said you got hit during panda and penguin hah nice one.

PR doesn't matter, I was just saying 1 website your showing us your great results doesn't mean shit and just makes you look like a jackass from boasting while others are saying they got hit.

I'm fine with SEO, I make a living off of it through clients in serious niches and my own sites ranking. I and others never said we can't rank and want to give up, when did we say this?

If you want to quote Scritty, yes you will see him complain about G00gle a lot and their jacked up results, so try again.

Were not saying SEO is dead, LISTEN...We're saying it's getting worse and worse and if you can't see how bad the results are and how skewed they are towards the big boys. If you haven't seen Amazon dominating and yelp and yellow pages dominating for local keywords as well as other garbage, you're pretty oblivious. It's only getting worse, is why people are pissed. I and others aren't saying give up SEO is dead, I'm not sure why people can't grasp that you can adapt and still be upset and want to change things as they go downhill.
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As time goes on, more people get in on IM, which leaves more people complaining about updates, while the minority making bank are sitting there laughing via verilix
 
Just because it's showing up everywhere doesn't mean it's dominating me.
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In my local niches it doesn't show up on the first page of any of my keywords. So if you are struggling to out rank yellow pages, IMHO I think you still have some learning to do.
 
I agree with this 100%.
I got a kinda stupid idea, if anyone is interested. What if we all help to create and rank a page, that shows nothing but images of google search results, with spammed links like you were talking about. That could get huge attention. If we get everyone to visit and share this page, maybe we can rank it really high. Just a thought, if nobody likes it no big deal. But I would love to see everyone get involved, we can all be a part in it.
 
I think you have some paying attention and reading you need to do if that's what you picked up. If Yelp isn't showing up in your local search everywhere you must be ranking in Nigeria. Once again, since you can't really pick it up, I never said I can't outrank these sites. It's about these sites never getting penalized and showing up for garbage long-tails and things they have nothing to do with, while legitimate sites get penalized. And once again for the slow ones, it doesn't mean I'm saying give up on SEO and give up, just want to make it obvious cause it's not getting through. Keep grinding and banking!

Logician said:
In my local niches it doesn't show up on the first page of any of my keywords. So if you are struggling to out rank yellow pages, IMHO I think you still have some learning to do.
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well yaaa google is really sucking in its search results yesterday i was searching about what major to take in master's of
IT and all off the 10 results consist of golf courses,,,, FU*KING SHIT to this!!!.
then i searched the same on duckduckgo.com and bing they give far more better results than google.
but if i talk about google update while it hits my small and low competition keywords sites sites while my big sites have ranked up.
so if you wanna make money GOOGLE IS GOOD but if you wanna search something that has no monetization with it you'll find irrelevant results.
 
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