Exploiting recent Google ranking mechanism

I never said there was NEVER a bones for EMD...in fact there most certainly was a bonus for it in the early days of search engines and I exploited that. But that loop hole closed years ago which is why I stated no-one from google in the last few years has said there was a bonus and clearly from experience and observation there is not one. Im even surprised that anyone would think such a thing. It shows a complete lack of understanding of everything. Your understanding of search engines is very simplistic...sort of kindergarten stuff.

Thanks for your input. You are wrong. But thanks anyway!

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The study above was almost 200,000 websites and 15 million+ URL's late in 2012.
Now then Mr "8 posts, been a member since last week" Let's have your sources and research please.
 
I never said there was NEVER a bones for EMD...in fact there most certainly was a bonus for it in the early days of search engines and I exploited that. But that loop hole closed years ago which is why I stated no-one from google in the last few years has said there was a bonus and clearly from experience and observation there is not one. Im even surprised that anyone would think such a thing. It shows a complete lack of understanding of everything.

https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/251784203597910016

Matt Cutts made that comment Sep 28, 2012, approximately 5 months ago. Before that, everyone in the SEO world knew that EMDs gave a ranking bonus. Literally everyone, except you ... but from the sounds of it you haven't been in SEO over 5 months.

Resisting the urge to paste a bazillion reference backlinks here to various sources, mainly BHW, of people discussing the benefits of using EMDs because quite honestly ... nobody even doubts the fact except you, and I really don't care if you believe it or not.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/googles-emd-algo-update-early-data

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We measured a 24-hour drop in EMD influence from 3.58% to 3.21%. This represents a day-over-day change of 10.3%. While the graph only shows the 30-day view, this also marks the lowest measurement of EMD influence on record since we started collecting data in early April.

So there is SEO moz tracking a make-believe EMD influence drop that occurred when Matt posted the change. People who actually know what they're talking about (like ... uh ... me), experienced significant EMD drops. But in your lala land, there was never any EMD bonus to begin with because you could never find a Google employee talking about the fact that there was an EMD bonus? rofl

oh, except they did

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-exact-match-domain-playbook-a-guide-and-best-practices-for-emds

Matt Cutts (esteemed Google engineer) has made this comment in the past (about 2 years ago):

"We have looked at the rankings and weights that we give to keyword domains and some people have complained that we?re giving a little too much weight for keywords in domains. And so we have been thinking about adjusting that mix a little bit and sort of turning the knob down within the algorithm so that given two different domains, it wouldn?t necessarily help you as much to have a domain with a bunch of keywords in it."

There's Matt stating (2 years before the EMD update) that we have been thinking about adjusting that mix a little bit and sort of turning the knob down within the algorithm, confirming that yes, it was actually in their algorithm.

Again, you have completely no idea what you're talking about.
 
Clever but its only theory. For low search keywords its not worth time. For medium-high keywords with XXk searches sure you can do it but many other users will do something other than you (click on page you want to rank and go back to search engine). Thats funny. That guy registered today or few days ago, made first post and you belive him without proof.

Without proof for me this
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Should note that the graph I posted was RELATIVE and not ABSOLUTE.
If you go to the post it's attached to it explains it all. Also a new set of stats by SEO Metrics is due out in March!
 
So there is SEO moz tracking a make-believe EMD influence drop that occurred when Matt posted the change. People who actually know what they're talking about (like ... uh ... me), experienced significant EMD drops. But in your lala land, there was never any EMD bonus to begin with because you could never find a Google employee talking about the fact that there was an EMD bonus?

Your wrong again. The drop was an algo change that pushed down in the serps poor quality websites that used EMD. At no stage does it show anything to do with an EMD getting a bonus in the serps. Losing ground in the serps never equated to a bonus in the first place. It was an algo change that imposed a downgrade on poor quality with EMD...thats it...nothing more. Still no proof that shows any sort of a bonus with EMD. On the other stuff, ill be back tomorrow to blast that rubbish down as well.
 
Should note that the graph I posted was RELATIVE and not ABSOLUTE.
If you go to the post it's attached to it explains it all. Also a new set of stats by SEO Metrics is due out in March!

I cant get the graph to show, do you have the link to the study and Ill have a look at this and get back to you after I study it, thanks.
 
Nice share, might give this a try in a way as a manner of speaking...
 
There's Matt stating (2 years before the EMD update) that we have been thinking about adjusting that mix a little bit and sort of turning the knob down within the algorithm, confirming that yes, it was actually in their algorithm.

You left something out of that ....."Some people have complained that were giving a little too much weight for keywords in domains". Note...thats other people...not Google. There two different things. Thats just other peoples opinions and people have wrong opinions all the time. There has been no admission on googles part in the last few years that they give a bonus to EMD as you claim. He then goes on the say that there thinking of adjusting the algorithm regarding keyword domains....but that still does not mean there is any bonus......and the end result was the update last year which penalized those promoting this theory. They did not remove a bonus...they simply are attempting to put this EMD rubbish to rest. Still no proof on your part showing any added bonus to EMD.
 
Removed my post. I don't want to get into an argument I don't care about... everyone can believe whatever they want, and if you think EMDs are the devil, don't use them; if you think they're amazing and are working well for you, use them. That's all I have to say, keep it simple. If the OP posted a method that is working for him, you can argue until doomsday, but it won't matter. Other people can test it out, and if it works, post it here. If it doesn't, post it here. But don't just start throwing out quotes from white papers like that information is the end all, be all.
 
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Your wrong again. The drop was an algo change that pushed down in the serps poor quality websites that used EMD. At no stage does it show anything to do with an EMD getting a bonus in the serps. Losing ground in the serps never equated to a bonus in the first place. It was an algo change that imposed a downgrade on poor quality with EMD...thats it...nothing more. Still no proof that shows any sort of a bonus with EMD. On the other stuff, ill be back tomorrow to blast that rubbish down as well.

Single handedly rewriting the history of SEO? Matt Cutts does what he calls a Google algorithm change affecting low quality EMDs, over the next few days everyone (http://www.seomoz.org/blog/googles-emd-algo-update-early-data, http://www.searchenginejournal.com/your-guide-to-googles-emd-algorithm-update/49915/, http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2214115/Google-Warns-of-Upcoming-Exact-Match-Domain-Algorithm-Change, http://www.seroundtable.com/google-emd-legit-15937.html, blogs about the EMD algorithm change, but here comes you, registered Feb 2013 with 12 posts (mostly relating to this thread) ... and you're so brilliant that you're smarter than all them and everyone else, proclaiming it wasn't really an EMD algo change, it was something else. Obviously you're wrong.

Let me guess...your selling EMD`s?

I don't sell anything. In fact, I don't bother with EMDs anymore. At one time, prior to 5 months ago, you could post an EMD and get significant advantage with minimal promotion of them. Today, in order to rank them, you have to put more effort into them, which doesn't make sense to bother with when you can simply create an authority site to promote multiple keywords and not have to bother with SEO hosting.

By the way, do you have any connection to the OP?

You can't post 1 link backing up a single thing you say. Nobody in the entire industry believes the things you believe, nobody. You quote Google employees and reword what they say to back up your position when its convenient, and when another Google employee is quoted that negates what you're saying ... you disregard it. So as you crash and burn with nothing to back up your argument, you insinuate that I am the OP? No, I'm not. But as long as we're throwing around wild accusations like that ...

I could just as easily claim you're someone else. Registered February 2013 with 12 posts, and now you're the self-proclaimed SEO god that knows more than all the experts in the industry? As long as we're making wild accusations, you're either the alt of another member, which is prohibited at BHW, or you are a banned member with a new account, which is also prohibited. Either way you have no clue what you're talking about.

You left something out of that ....."Some people have complained that were giving a little too much weight for keywords in domains". Note...thats other people...not Google. There two different things. Thats just other peoples opinions and people have wrong opinions all the time.

Negated by what Matt Cutts says right after what you quoted.

There has been no admission on googles part in the last few years that they give a bonus to EMD as you claim. He then goes on the say that there thinking of adjusting the algorithm regarding keyword domains....but that still does not mean there is any bonus......and the end result was the update last year which penalized those promoting this theory. They did not remove a bonus...they simply are attempting to put this EMD rubbish to rest. Still no proof on your part showing any added bonus to EMD.

Matt Cutts said

And so we have been thinking about adjusting that mix a little bit and sort of turning the knob down within the algorithm so that given two different domains, it wouldn't necessarily help you as much to have a domain with a bunch of keywords in it.

Read it again. He says the word algorithm there, see it? He says adjust it so you don't have an advantage if it has keywords in it, see it?

How can you http://www.seroundtable.com/google-exact-match-domain-keywords-14218.html ... take the phrase "Exact match domains does not equal rankings for that keyword phrase", extrapolate that into an all-encompassing "Google gives zero advantage to exact match domains" when he doesn't say that ... and yet when Matt Cutts uses the exact terms "algorithm", comparing "two domains" (one with keywords, one without), and adjusting the algorithm to stop giving one domain favor ... you somehow wiggle out of that saying it was never in the algorithm and he's not really talking about exact match domains.

Of course exact match domains does not equal rankings. All you need to do is spend a couple minutes searching google to find a EMDs that aren't ranking well ... and there you have it that "exact match domains doesn't equal rankings". That's the only thing in the world you're basing your arguments on?

You've progressed beyond just not knowing what you're talking about, into a troll who doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
In fact, Matt Cutts has already stated that the Google algorithm was changed to stop this. Google filed a Patent way back in 2003 about this very problem of exact match domains being used to game the algo. The Patent was..."Systems and Methods for detecting commercial queries". Suggest you have a read.​
You may think so but I've seen a lot of people exploiting EMDs lately - and not just using this method. It seems that an EMD will get you a 'test' - some traffic will be sent to it to try it out and see what the result is. So the point is to make sure you get the clickthrough.

The only thing that matters is the result. This approach is getting pages ranked at the moment (and i've already seen quite a few people exploiting it) - it's a loophole that google will have to close.
 
It literally takes a week and $10 for a domain name to test this approach - I've received a ton of emails asking for examples.

Just test it out, it costs you virtually nothing:

Found a way to post get round not being able to post URLs with this forum :) - here's some examples:
Keyword: Barry Kirkey
- 1st ranked site - [keyword] radio show is a clickthrough URL to the 2nd ranked site.
- 2nd ranked site is the 'money site' (well they're not doing it for dollars - it's some weird hate site), but the point is that's their landing page they have bumped via the link below which is
- 3rd ranked site - the [keyword] radio show ---> this is the site using the clickthrough URL (so it's EMD with 'the' added to front and radioshow' - works too.

Interestingly the original site barrykirkey domain is completely off the ranking now.

Another, not so high ranked (newer?): reticular activating system >> net --> keyword reticular activating system

Check out the backlink profiles... nothing...
 
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Pretty good one. This is going to get patched up soon lol. But still, nice technique.
Atleast, I can put that clickthrough rate is a big factor in ranking sites.
 
interesting idea op, will try to test.

@grahamklemm, thanks for the laughs and hilarity. and keep listening to matt cutts! all the best.
 
I'll give the OP some rep and thanks just because he taught me something. Nice one.
The OP is definitely right about the EMD. EMD still gets an initial boost but the boost dies later on. I know a lot of people that still use EMD. They all think that their sites will be gone next year though but they are still making money. Some of them hope the sites will not be gone but they have already accepted that they will be gone next year. They will just have to keep rebuilding.
 
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This makes sense but you're going to have to be super targeted to turn it into long-term rankings
 
It literally takes a week and $10 for a domain name to test this approach - I've received a ton of emails asking for examples.

Just test it out, it costs you virtually nothing:

Found a way to post get round not being able to post URLs with this forum :) - here's some examples:
Keyword: Barry Kirkey
- 1st ranked site - [keyword] radio show is a clickthrough URL to the 2nd ranked site.
- 2nd ranked site is the 'money site' (well they're not doing it for dollars - it's some weird hate site), but the point is that's their landing page they have bumped via the link below which is
- 3rd ranked site - the [keyword] radio show ---> this is the site using the clickthrough URL (so it's EMD with 'the' added to front and radioshow' - works too.

Interestingly the original site barrykirkey domain is completely off the ranking now.

Another, not so high ranked (newer?): reticular activating system >> net --> keyword reticular activating system

Check out the backlink profiles... nothing...

You can't really count a kw with 260 monthly searches, no competition or commercial value as an example...

You could probably also rank that site with a simple bookmark blast and be like: Wow I ranked #1 with bookmarks, big exploit!!!!
 
You can't really count a kw with 260 monthly searches, no competition or commercial value as an example...
You could probably also rank that site with a simple bookmark blast and be like: Wow I ranked #1 with bookmarks, big exploit!!!!

You said it mate! An example with "About 59,300 results" for a weird hate keyword? Give us a break!

Can you rank for actual money keywords with fair-medium competition? Absolutely not! (Unless someone proves otherwise)
 
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