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Expired Domains PR Expirement

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by thisismymp3, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. thisismymp3

    thisismymp3 Power Member

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    3 Months ago i bought 20 domains that expired with PR ...., after the PR updates only 5 kept the value. :eek:

    25% SUCCESS RATE

    Anyone else do any similar tests?
     
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    Taff_Man Junior Member

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    Good to know. I've always wondered about this.
     
  3. meannn

    meannn Supreme Member

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    Have you put content on them ? The pr expiration is depending on how strong backlinks it has.
     
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    0_00_0 Senior Member

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    This could be due to many other factors though. If you don't still have ALL the pages from the old site with the old content live then Google understandably sees a lapse in the quality of the website.

    Also, there is a good chance that you have lost some backlinks to the domains in the meanwhile have you been monitoring this? You can check out ahrefs historic index and see if there is a decline in overall backlinks.
     
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    geniusenterprise Registered Member

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    From my experience it purely depends of the backlinks are still there. During the time when the website had PR3, owner of the backlink may have removed it since it turned out to be a dead link during that period of time. Therefore 3 months later there's no PR afterwards. Sometimes the PR goes down though.
     
  6. Execute

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    Well 25% is still quite good, don't lose hope though as those domains that have dropped page rank may still provide some value!
     
  7. axemantech

    axemantech Newbie

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    I've seen this happen a lot. This is how it works - scammers post high value links to a worthless domain thereby getting the PR of the domain to increase. They then put the domain on auction once the PR is high. Eventually someone buys this $10 domains for a ridiculously high price. They remove all the links, and start over with another worthless $10 domain. In the next PR update the PR crashes as the links have been removed. Since PR updates do not happen regularly, it takes a long time for the buyer to know he has been scammed.

    What you can do to not be fooled -

    1. Check the back links of the top 10 domains (check in Majestic Seo and Ahrefs). Look for all contextual links i.e. links that are surrounded by relevant text. Ignore site wide links (blog rolls, footer links etc). If you have enough high value contextual links, then the domain will retain its PR.
    2. Check the last site in Wayback Machine. If you see the site to have suddenly changed (UI changes, content changes), then its possible that someone already bought this and tried to make it a part of a blog network.
    3. Check the anchor text distribution in Majestic Seo. If you see any scammy words i.e. keywords not fitting in with the niche, then this domain may be a scam.
    4. Check whether the domain is being indexed by google using the "site: domain" and "info: domain" search queries. If google has not indexed any pages, the domain may be facing a manual penalty. It tends to be very hard to get such a penalty removed and till then the domain is worthless.
     
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  8. FutureProofSeo

    FutureProofSeo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member UnGagged Attendee

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    I've had some go up as well as go down, some gain that had none.

    When I've got time I will go through them all for some data correlation.

    Can't really complain when many were bought for $10.
     
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    offwhite Regular Member

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    I would say 25% is a lower retention rate than I've tended to achieve.
    As previously mentioned depends on many factors - some under your control, some not.
    Things to help:
    Use similar content to what was on there before
    Add a few more links yourself
     
  10. Bartholomew

    Bartholomew Regular Member

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    Yeah, usually they lose 1 to 2 points of PR after the first PR update. Still PR2 and history is way better than PR0 and no history.
    25% is not bad. After the next PR update some of them will lose PR too.

    The lesson is: you need to feed your high-PR satellite network with new backlinks.
     
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    MichelinaBraatz Registered Member

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    I had two domain names with page rank 5 and 4 from expired domain lists, in recent pr update, both have now page rank 1....

    Both sites are active and I see, SEO is not penalized due to decrease in PR.
     
  12. thisismymp3

    thisismymp3 Power Member

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    yeah i slapped 2-5 unique posts on each basic wp layout
     
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    thisismymp3 Power Member

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    i totally understand that i didn't buy more than just a normal reg cost of 7.49 for each, some i ued the 99 cent coupon for

     
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    Did you check WaybackMachine to keep juice from old urls?
     
  15. thisismymp3

    thisismymp3 Power Member

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    not at all, next time i will try that, i was also thinking about just scraping the old site and putting it back up as well with the link structure too.