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Expired Domain Pagerank Lost?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jerel, May 5, 2012.

  1. jerel

    jerel Newbie

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    Recently, I ran across a website (a foundation) that became expired and I wanted to redirect the URL to my website. Their website have tons of .gov and .edu links and was a PR7 (legit). Today, this the url is now illustrating hosting/backorder domain information, the PR dropped to PR 0. Now my question is.... is there anyway to get this pagerank back if I decide to purchase?
     
  2. daserpent

    daserpent Power Member

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    Google resets the PR every time a domain is not renewed. However, you MIGHT get the PR back if you are able to replicate the same old website word-for-word and page-for-page. If you think about it, the previous backlinks are still pointed at their urls, but now that url doesn't resolve because there are no pages present.

    So, if you put up the same pages again with the exact same urls, the PR will start flowing back and your domain will see an updated PR in the next PR update.
     
  3. jerel

    jerel Newbie

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    Yeah...that's what I figured. However, would it need to be verbatim? The old site was simply a few pages, which announced that the new site was being moved. I actually spoke to the prior owners today (while it was still pry) to arrange a purchase, since the foundation had no use for the domain. Now, I'm second guessing reaching out.

    Also, one major thing that I noticed that changed today is that it's no longer indexed in google ( this literally happened in hours after me calling network solutions to inquire about the domain)...maybe just a coincidence ?? If I resubmitted it back to google with new content, then the PR in theory should come back? This domain is PERFECT for my site:)
     
  4. KraftyKyle

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    If it was a legit PR7, I can't imagine the owner would drop it that easily. With .gov backlinks still pointing to the site, you should be able to get the PR from it. Try doing a wildcard redirect to the main url. That may do the trick if they are all to sub pages. Or use waybackmachine to get the old content.
     
  5. criticalmess

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    Why does he need to reconstruct the previous site page by page? can't he just play with 301 redirects?
     
  6. jerel

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    Well...that's what I thought, however the previous owners ( a foundation) had no use for the domain, since it was only a secondary site for a particular initiative that their MAIN site (pr 7 also, with higher 88DA) created. In addition to this, they aren't really concern about PR, nor know anything about it frankly. Had I not known about this organization prior, I would have thought it was too good to be true. So yeah, all the links are definitely legit ( 1,000's from authority sites) + great domain authority.
     
  7. shiitake

    shiitake Registered Member

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    Did the PR drop to 0 or to N/A? Often if a domain expires and the PR changes because of that it goes to N/A and not 0; if you put up a new site that manages to keep the existing links (no need to do word for word reconstruction of the site, it's enough to look reasonably legit with similar content) then PR will come back quickly according to the existing link juice. If it drops to 0 and not N/A then it's an actual PR update and not just a reflection of the fact that the domain got expired.
     
  8. MarkWW

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    If it's a PR N/A, you are fine.
    Put a simple page, add to webmaster tools, fetch as google bot. Sit and relax.
    PR will come back even if you dont reconstruct the whole website. ;) enjoy the PR!
     
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    I will agree with this.I took many domains this way and some tumblrs.All were at N/A for some time.I build some pages and they got their page rank back
     
  10. jerel

    jerel Newbie

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    Well, the PR went to 0/10 not NA. How long did it take to come back? Did you simply wait for a new update? Personally, I'm nor concern about when it display as PR7, since I know PR is updated all the time. My plan to 301 the domain to a similar page on my current website, thus benefiting from the existing .gov links. Now, I currently have several .gov and .edu pointing to the same page, however, not nearly on the level as this particular domain.
     
  11. ComputerEngineer

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    If those backlinks are real you will still get juice by redirecting 301