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Exit scam? Maybe some improvements for closed BSTs from deleted members

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My previously banned haters may say that I just spam BHW with suggestions and I don't buy or sell anything, just farming engagement with suggestions, but in fact this one is about me too.

Upvote.biz vanished a few weeks ago, I used this service a lot to buy upvotes for Reddit and I didn't have any issues with them until they disappeared.

BST: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/u...-per-upvote-automatic-bulk-discounts.1559343/

I still have a small balance on that website, but we're not protected by BHW rules and dispute system anymore, because the seller deleted his account and their BST was consequently closed.

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Since then, there are multiple reports of closed accounts, bad support , slow delivery. In summary: if you complain about anything, they will just say f*** off and terminate your account, grabbing your funds. If you keep using that service, they will delivery it, but very slowly.

For reference, there are several problems reported here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/upvote-biz-is-scam.1772618/#post-20178095

In my personal case I just forgot this website and started using another one protected by BHW rules, my current balance on Upvote.biz will be probably stolen after this post and my account will be terminated there, as it is happening with several other members, but it's just $1.94, so whatever.

But it's concerning that probably tens of BHW users are still using that website and not even aware that they are not protected by BHW anymore, because BHW can't do anything about a deleted member + closed BST. We can't open a dispute against a ghost, it seems just an exit scam at this point.

My quick suggestions:

1) Add a warning like this one below. Of course, this is just an example and mods could think about a better text, but a caution warning would be useful to discourage users to not deal with this business anymore.

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2) Remove the current text and media, I guess mods can do that right now without approving or rejecting this suggestion, I hope they can do that

Why is it relevant?
If you search for ''upvote.biz'' on Google, BHW results are still the first ones, most of its users are probably from BHW, so if this service is not active anymore, but his users are members of this forum, it's fair to put some warning messages to avoid more victims, remove media, etc.

Also, if you search for recommendations of services to buy upvotes from on this forum, some members were suggesting this service a few months ago, clueless members could take those old posts into consideration and it could bring more new users (and victims) for this dead service, since their website is still active and still accepting deposits.
 
The service is working perfectly fine, lol.

If you have an issue - you are welcome to message the owner and he will always offer a refund of your balance.

Period, the service is also one of the biggest in the market and has been operating for years.

Delivery is perfectly fine as well, you can keep moaning, the owner does not care - customer base is loyal.
 
The user was banned for repeatedly moaning and trashing the service with no REAL explanation other than "crap service".

When the owner messaged for any input on what to improve on or fix - he provided none.

So the owner banned him and offered the funds back, you are just trying to trash cus you're either a competitor from an alt, or, you're mad you were banned. period.
 
seems like the service is still working but it is definitely a good suggestion for closed BSTs in general
 
The service is working perfectly fine, lol.
I don't know who are you, but I prefer to avoid relying on your personal experience. The fact is that this service is not available on BHW anymore, we are not protected by BHW rules, your word that ''you can ask for a refund and they will refund you, trust me bro'', is not enough

So the owner banned him and offered the funds back, you are just trying to trash cus you're either a competitor from an alt, or, you're mad you were banned. period.

If you check that closed BST, I gave a positive feedback for Upvote.biz months ago. I'm just a previous customer concerned about bad experiences reported by several members. If you think all those bad experiences are from alts created by competitors, feel free to report all those comments. You seem to be very closely related to Upvote.biz to react like that, it make me thing that bad support is actually a real problem.

seems like the service is still working but it is definitely a good suggestion for closed BSTs in general
Yep, and unfortunatelly there are good references for this kind of service and newbies could take them into consideration, months ago it was a positive experience for me, right now, I'm not sure anymore.
 
I don't know who are you, but I prefer to avoid relying on your personal experience. The fact is that this service is not available on BHW anymore, we are not protected by BHW rules, your word that ''you can ask for a refund and they will refund you, trust me bro'', is not enough



If you check that closed BST, I gave a positive feedback for Upvote.biz months ago. I'm just a previous customer concerned about bad experiences reported by several members. If you think all those bad experiences are from alts created by competitors, feel free to report all those comments. You seem to be very closely related to Upvote.biz to react like that, it make me thing that bad support is actually a real problem.


Yep, and unfortunatelly there are good references for this kind of service and newbies could take them into consideration, months ago it was a positive experience for me, right now, I'm not sure anymore.
Facts are the service is working fine, aside from a small 1-2 hour downtime once or twice a week - the service is fine and delivering fine.

These customers who are having their accounts closed are purely customers who either speak like the owner works for them, very rude. or, they just keep moaning with no explanation as to what is the issue and it's been explained over and over again.


You will respect the owner or you will be terminated with the service (and your funds returned of course).

Here is the owner explaining just that in a group:

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And even other customers siding with the owner.


People making over 6 figs a month.
 
I don't know who are you, but I prefer to avoid relying on your personal experience. The fact is that this service is not available on BHW anymore, we are not protected by BHW rules, your word that ''you can ask for a refund and they will refund you, trust me bro'', is not enough



If you check that closed BST, I gave a positive feedback for Upvote.biz months ago. I'm just a previous customer concerned about bad experiences reported by several members. If you think all those bad experiences are from alts created by competitors, feel free to report all those comments. You seem to be very closely related to Upvote.biz to react like that, it make me thing that bad support is actually a real problem.


Yep, and unfortunatelly there are good references for this kind of service and newbies could take them into consideration, months ago it was a positive experience for me, right now, I'm not sure anymore.
Adding info, Deleted member 2257172 is Upvote.biz onwer's other project
 
Adding info, Deleted member 2257172 is Upvote.biz onwer's other project
Ah, understood.

I don't know why he deleted his other account and created this new one, but whatever, Upvote.biz users are not protected by BHW rules anymore, everyone using that website can have their account instantly terminated if their owner's ego feels threatened by complaints

The Terms of Service stated on BHW BST is not valid anymore, I didn't find any term about ''if you moan = ban'', ''if you are rude = ban''

So, I keep this suggestion, unless mods can clarify that this White Tunnel is liable for Upvote.biz issues and disputes can be opened against him or another specific alt profile.
 
Ah, understood.

I don't know why he deleted his other account and created this new one, but whatever, Upvote.biz users are not protected by BHW rules anymore, everyone using that website can have their account instantly terminated if their owner's ego feels threatened by complaints

The Terms of Service stated on BHW BST is not valid anymore, I didn't find any term about ''if you moan = ban'', ''if you are rude = ban''

So, I keep this suggestion, unless mods can clarify that this White Tunnel is liable for Upvote.biz issues and disputes can be opened against him or another specific alt profile.
LOL

This is obviously a sad competitor or a customer that's been removed from the panel.

I am liable for anything done on upvote.biz, don't mind that, now stay quiet and go spend your funds elsewhere.

NO ONE has been ever had any issue with funds lost from me - the owner of upvote.biz, and NO ONE will ever be.

If anyone is not happy - I will send your full balance back, period. now move on with your life
 
"exit scam"

What an absolute CLOWN

"Grabbing your funds"

No one's funds were stolen
 
The service is working perfectly fine, lol.

If you have an issue - you are welcome to message the owner and he will always offer a refund of your balance.

Period, the service is also one of the biggest in the market and has been operating for years.

Delivery is perfectly fine as well, you can keep moaning, the owner does not care - customer base is loyal.

you are the owner, right?
 
Well, this guy lost control. If there was any doubt about the quality of this service's support, it's now clear. In another post, he's also calling previous customers clowns and hurling insults, completely unprofessional and amateurish, with the mental control of a borderline teenager.

Please mods, clarify how the situation stands when a user with reports of problems has their account deleted, BST closed, and has another active profile here insulting members and allowed to make sales. Not sure if he's liable to his previous BST or what are the rules about it, the fact is that Upvote.biz is not under BHW rules anymore and current users are depending on a histrionic owner to have their services delivered.
 
@Venusaur We are already working on a plan for closed and expired BSTs that we intend to implement in the New Year. But we will also talk about this subject in this week's company meetings. When we have that plan set in stone and intend to put it into action we will obviously let members know.

As far as the other stuff that's happened in here, the team is looking into it and may act in due course.

And @Venusaur, we always appreciate your suggestions even when we don't intend to act on them, so don't stop making them!



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