Everything Happens For A Reason OR Everything Happens Randomly?

BUT is universe random or there is a reason for it..
Asking for a definitive answer to a question that no one can know.. if you're looking for theories then it's an interesting question, but we can't rationalise something that we not only don't have control over, but don't even have a basic knowledge of.

It could be random, or it could be deterministic. It's not something that can be measured (yet).
 
Asking for a definitive answer to a question that no one can know.. if you're looking for theories then it's an interesting question, but we can't rationalise something that we not only don't have control over, but don't even have a basic knowledge of.

It could be random, or it could be deterministic. It's not something that can be measured (yet).

There is no "yet". Human simply can't define something like that and be 100% sure. It is paradox. If nothing exists then nothing must exist forever. But since I exist then nothing does not exist. So what happened in the beginning? No one knows. Because if we imagine the start equal with x, there is x-1.
 
There is no "yet"
Before humans had discovered how to use fire, we hadn't discovered it "yet". The same is true here. There's nothing to say that at some point in the future we won't be able to scientifically prove whether existence is probabilistic or deterministic, but currently we haven't reached that point.

Human simply can't define something like that and be 100% sure
It was defined accurately in the question. "Everything happens for a reason or everything happens randomly?". Determinism and probabilism accurately describe the two alternatives in the question.

If nothing exists then nothing must exist forever. But since I exist then nothing does not exist.
That's a different question all together "does anything exist?". It's a big question, but it's not the same as OP's question.

So what happened in the beginning?
Again, that's not the question and that has no bearing on the answer to the question OP asked. Any number of things could be responsible for creation, but none of them directly mean that existence is either random or pre-determined.

The universe could have come about from some form of intelligent creation, but that doesn't necessarily mean that everything is pre-determined. The same is true of non-intelligent origins of the universe, that doesn't mean everything is random, but it could.

Because if we imagine the start equal with x, there is x-1.
In algebra that is true because of the nature of numbers, in particular the ability for negative numbers to exist. That doesn't necessarily mean that there can be an equivalent of x-1 with relation to the point of the origin of the universe (if there is one).


It's definitely an interesting question to think about though.
 
Discovering what is fire is science. But discovering why fire is something beyond science. (I hope you got my point)

I know I'm not following exactly what OP started, but similar questions.
 
I think everything happens for a reason there is nothing random about it
 
But discovering why fire is something beyond science.
My point with last post was gotta be careful with saying flashy things that sounds mystical and edgy but aren't really accurate.. Like "why fire" isn't a question, but if you mean "why is there fire?" that's a question that is 150% not beyond science, in fact it's easily explainable by teenagers at school.

If you want a question that would potentially class as being beyond science, "how the fuck does quantum entanglement work?", but even then it's a mysterious area of scientific thought today, but maybe 50 years from now we understand it as well as we understand electricity today.

I do get your point in general though and like it said it's a really interesting philosophical question.
 
Everything doesn't happen for a reason. The universe is full of randomness.

You either work hard to make it your way or accept the random things that happen and blame it on the grand plan of an alien.
 
Everything doesn't happen for a reason. The universe is full of randomness.

You either work hard to make it your way or accept the random things that happen and blame it on the grand plan of an alien.
If everything happens with no reason why it happens at the first place.. this is so confusing for my brain... :D
 
It's called paradox. And where science cannot "press", here it comes the religion.
yeah, but that dont do any help to me, and calling something a paradox is an easy way :)
not a fan of any of the religions, a strong believer in science and math. without science, there would not be a pen to write the Bible..
this topic is mind-boggling, but i like ti hear everybody's point of view.
Everything doesn't happen for a reason. The universe is full of randomness.

You either work hard to make it your way or accept the random things that happen and blame it on the grand plan of an alien.
whoever this alien is I trust this guy :D
Asking for a definitive answer to a question that no one can know.. if you're looking for theories then it's an interesting question, but we can't rationalise something that we not only don't have control over, but don't even have a basic knowledge of.

It could be random, or it could be deterministic. It's not something that can be measured (yet).
not looking for a definitive answer, just like to see what other peoples opinion of this topic is.
Theres a lot of the teories out there, science and computer simulations are so advanced these days that some of them should be accurate. IF there was a big bang, that's like sooooo crazy insane,,,,
 
Every thing happens for a reason. You are in this position because of something happened in the past. Let's say whether all persons achieve their dreams goals even they have same knowledge and effort? Why? Balance should be there in the universe. IMO, we and everything in the universe are here for a reason.
 
I live a principle in life that everything happens for a reason because everything revolves around cause and effect.
 
Of course for a reason , the consciousness is the cause .
The Bigger Your level of consciousness the more potential you have in this universe . There is ancient hidden knowledge of Hermes Trismegistus , which describes the technicity of this universe , but this is secret knowledge , and its understandable why . Also Jordano Bruno had works related to hermetic traditions . He was burnt alive by the church btw , cause they dont want us to know Truth.
 
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