Most people who've read alot of my posts (especially my older ones) know that I'm usually the one reminding people how important values are. I've posted many replies pointing out how things like ethics, integrity, respect, and even just basic etiquette have declined so much over the years. I do think our modern society has lost a lot because of that. When I was young, not only did our parents try to teach us those values, but much of it was also taught in school. In elementary school we recieved a grade on "Citizenship" that was based on those values. There was even an Ethics class in high school. Things have changed a lot in our society since the 1960s, some things for the better, but in this area I think things have changed much for the worse. Those values aren't taught so much these days even at home, and definately not in schools anymore. I made a reply in a thread earlier regarding the mypadmedia product that skagenweb has. I was making a point that even though his product basically just repackages and sells access to free information, that doesn't actually make it unethical. It might not be worthwhile for most people that can just go out and get the information themselves, but that doesn't make it a scam. Anyone that buys it and finds it not worthwhile can just get a refund anyway. Well after reading my reply in that thread someone sent a comment telling me I need to "learn what ethics are". That comment does bother me, because I actually do hold myself to a fairly high ethical standard. BHW has become my favorite place to hang out on the internet, but there's a lot of methods here that I wouldn't feel comfortable doing myself. More than half the moneymaking methods shared on BHW are way more unethical than the idea behind mypadmedia. I just browse and search to find the ones I can be comfortable with. I understand the negative reviews about mypadmedia on on blogs like geardiary.com. But this is Black Hat World and we're here to learn ways to make money. Even if you personally would never resell anything you could get for free, it's still a great concept on a blackhat forum. For people that are fine with it then it's cool skagenweb came here to find affiliates. If your worried about the ethics of it, well the idea behind the mypadmedia website is actually pretty tame. Compared to many of the blackhat moneymaking methods taught on this forum it could almost be considered whitehat. So anyway, I just thought I'd take a minute to let whoever it was know that I actually do "know what ethics are", and yes I think values like ethics and integrity are very important. But thanks for your suggestion anyway.