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Essential Traffic ANd Ranking Tools

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dejacrew, May 23, 2008.

  1. dejacrew

    dejacrew Registered Member

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    I'm interested in what other people are using to get traffic and rank for their keywords. So . .. I'll post what I'm doing. Law of reciprocity and all that.

    Trackback Spider
    I use this to just get stuff indexed and (hopefully) get some keyword targetted backlinks

    BlogPinger
    The free thing from Joseph Tierney. I use this to ping all of my urls, and also I pull a report on my backlinks and ping all the sites that have a link to me, to get/keep those backlinks indexed

    FriendBlaster Pro
    I use this to add keyword targetted friends to myspace accounts, and then post lots of comments to them. This is probably the most effective thing I do . . .

    YACG
    I build a site with YACG using long tail keywords for whatever niche I'm working in. I put sitewide footers to my money pages on the template, I put an email opt in form for my list on the navigation panel, and I put a big graphic advertisement for my money pages above the fold. Don't bother with adsense or anything like that.

    I may start re-directing these to the site, but I'm not sure yet

    DP CO-OP NETWORK
    I maintain a content network that runs DP CO op and has high link vaultage, and then run ads/links back to my money pages

    Blogging
    I just run one or two for each main site. And I write real content for them, and get real user comments and stuff (basically when I make a new post I put ut a bulletin on a myspace account that's targetted to the niche). I try to maintain a good ping list, etc.

    BookMarking Demon
    Basically I just use this to get the YACG sites ranked and indexed for long tail keywords

    Squidhub Searcher
    Do a bit, but not often

    Comment Kahuna
    Also a bit, but not often.

    Basically when I would set up a site (I'm retired except for a few whitehat domains now haha) I would run through the process above. Take a day to do it well, and would usually generate a good amount of traffic for whatever I was promoting.

    So I am interested in what other people are using/doing that seems to be working.

    I'd like to know what you think are must have scripts/utilities/apps for generating traffic/rankings, and any methodologies you would care to share "with the group".

    J
     
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  2. dejacrew

    dejacrew Registered Member

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    I forgot to add that I drop links on some parasite hosting like Amazon Astores, Squidoo, etc. and then ping those urls and run them through a trackback poster.
     
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  3. shm03

    shm03 Regular Member

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    Could you explain the YACG part a bit better but apart from that very useful guide.

    Shmoe
     
  4. dejacrew

    dejacrew Registered Member

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    I build yacg sites around long tail keywords for the niche that I'm working in.

    So if it's hats I build a site with few hundred keywords for hats that will be easy to rank for using the above methods.

    In the left hand navigation panel, or wherever it is in the template, I put in an opt in form offering them to subscribe to the latest info about hats (my main hats list).

    In the center where the scraped content is, I put a huge graphic advertisement that's clickable for my money site on each keyword optimized page.

    It would be just as easy to set up doorway pages and maybe more effective, but I have some other reasons for doing it this way (mainly psychological).

    So I go for the opt-in or the click through to the money site.

    Of course there's some real synergy mojo that I didn't really detail in the post . . . People who are good at SEO can probably read through most of the lines, but my basic M.O. is to do a few simple things that together are greater than the sum of their parts, seo wise.
     
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  5. sophan

    sophan Newbie

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    do you use blogger generator? Or create any blog farm.....
     
  6. dejacrew

    dejacrew Registered Member

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    I used to use Joseph Tierneys Blogger Generator ( a purchased copy - it's worth paying for), but blogspot is often blocked here in China and the proxies are to slow so it's not worth my time to sit around and wait a million years for a captcha to show up.

    It's much easier for me to build out hundreds of Amazon Stores, Squidoo lenses, etc. and get free content targetted for my keywords that I never have to update or deal with, plug in rss feeds, and be done with it.

    Still though . . . This isn't what alot of the parasites in this forum want to hear, I know - But the best way to generate traffic and organic rankings is to provide real value.

    I keep about 5 myspace profiles for each big project I'm doing, and I add friends by targetted keyword search through google, myspace groups, etc. I don't use any fake pictures of girls or anything like that.

    And when I put something new up, they are trained to go look at it because they know it will be good, or interesting, or controversial or whatever.

    There are alot of things that you can shortcut I think, but you have to do it with the notion of developing sustainability.

    It's much better to build Primary (money pages), Secondary (coop/ad exchange vaultage, page rank, click through traffic, etc.) and third tier (pure spam - parasite hosting, etc.) networks, mix in some adwords, and then on your main sites or landing pages, offer stuff that's legitimately cool, and BE cool to people.

    Or you can type captchas for the rest of your life.

    I think (and I didn't really realize this for a long time) that it's important to just stay in 1 or a couple of niches, too.

    Part of this is that if you do this right, you can dominate it and build a real brand. . .

    It's like this -

    I can run some spam campaigns and get some clicks and make some adsense money, or a few affiliate sales and then move on. That's cool, and that's what I did for a couple of years to get myself to the point where I can see the forest for the trees (I think!) now.

    Or I can choose a couple of niches.

    Everytime somebody searches for anything in that niche they see my brand.

    In adwords (that I buy at 10% of face value and run my competitors out of dodge or bankrupt their advertising budgets in a few weeks).

    On Social Networking Sites that they're a member of.

    In blog comments on related blogs.

    In footer links for DP Coop and similar ad networks.

    On machine generated (scraped) content sites that look like some dudes blog where there's a big "can't stop looking at me" graphic ad right above the fold.

    On a list of less than 10 high traffic forums related to the niche where I pay someone LESS than $3 to post a comment or question about my main sites every single week.

    Right . . . You know what I mean?

    Instead of going for hit and run clicks or very low converting affiliate programs, I try to build something sustainable, and create a COMPOUNDING or exponential psychological/emotional trust, so that when I push something, once in a great while, it makes ALOT of money.

    And to be honest the money will probably be about the same for both approaches.

    The difference is whether or not you want to re-invent the wheel 7 days a week.
     
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  7. goonieguhu

    goonieguhu Junior Member

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    Great posts! It is always useful to see how others do things step-by-step.

    P.S. I'm going to try the Blog Pinger program now to make sure all of the comments I've been leaving on ******** blogs get indexed. That's been one thing that's been vexing me so thanks for the tip!
     
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    creztor Power Member

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    Yes, I wish there was a thank you button. Greatly appreciate the post deja. Has been very helpful for me.
     
  9. dejacrew

    dejacrew Registered Member

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    So much for the law of Reciprocity . . . Thanks alot Jay Abrahams. haha

    Anyway - anyone else using anything "off the shelf" that's working out well for organic ranking?
     
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  10. S&W40MPc

    S&W40MPc Newbie

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    It will come back to you, rest assured. Wish I could contribute, but I'm too new.

    sw40
     
  11. partner

    partner Registered Member Premium Member

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    Besides blogging, I use 3w*ayli*nks. It's expensive with $47/m, but I think it's definitely worth the cost. The only problem with it, is that the owner (J*on Led*ger) is very picky in accepting sites... but it works fine for sites that are accepted. (If anybody considers joining, please PM me and we'll split my 50% affiliate fee :))
     
  12. wervetowerk

    wervetowerk Newbie

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    dejacrew -

    what hosting service do you use for sites like this? great post, rep added.