Discussion in 'Link Building' started by Alex Brooks, Nov 29, 2009.
Got this email from lemonarian.com
LOL....he is a little behind the times. Linkwheel is a very generic term these days. In the thread I created I've had people ask about the wheel being closed or why did you do this or that. I use the term linkwheel because thats a term everyone is familiar with.
In reality what we are really talking about is a backlink and traffic building process.
About every 3 or 4 months we tweak what we are doing just enough to make sure we are different than everyone else.
The latest change was adding videos into the process. I'm in the process now of putting together a plan to build as many links to some of our content submissions as we do the pages on our sites.
Think outside the box
I was just posting this for anyone who didn't read the e-mail/get the e-mail etc.
Wow very nice linkwheel. I have been working on making modifications to mine for a while now and this one gave me some good ideas.
This is some 15 year old kid who for some reason claims he discovered link wheels when in fact they've been called mininets for a long time (read Revenge of the Mininet).
I think this is pretty much awful advice.
Heavy interlinking of your parasite pages will not only devalue them, but can also get them deindexed entirely.
I was just speaking with someone today who had his 3500 site mininet deindexed for interlinking. The SERPs on his money site dropped like a rock and it took him 2 months to get back to where he was.
Once people stop calling it a linkwheel & quit trying to provided the best useless diagram they might be able to move forward. The mininet lemonarian wrote about was a short term blackhat method. It had several flaws from the offset. Anyone who has read the first page of a SEO book would know this.
Please, quit with the diagrams, they are wasting space. Using the same content on all properties was bad advice, using the same properties was bad advice, calling it a wheel was misleading (well is was a wheel), the wheel concept was innaccurate, using the same title on every property was innaccurate.
Nothing against Lemonarian but this linkwheel thing has been taken too far, it has been sucked dry
I agree. But only to a point. The linkwheel concept can still be used if you make it more random, use different Web 2.0 properties, and also never close the "wheel". Each person needs to come up with their own "linkwheel" design or scheme. This will make it harder for Google to "catch on".
As an example, the new linkwheel diagram that Lemonarian worked out would probably have been great if it had not been blasted all over the net. So my advice would be to make your own "linkwheel" method and keep it underwraps!
My thoughts on the whole thing is this....we build linkwheels or mininets or linking processes...whatever you want to call them. They are very effective if you put some thought into what you do.
I call it a linkwheel because thats a term that people are familiar with....in reality are are more of a process than a wheel but the end result is that they are effective.
Look at the process and see how it can be modified to be more effective.
One example...ezinearticles may show up on the top of the search engines for a particular keyword phrase while scribd may show up on top for another keyword. So instead of building backlinks (linkwheel) around random web 2.0 properties build them around the ones that rank high for that keyword phrase. This way you can take over that position in the serps...and get the traffic. As an added benefit you get a very good backlink that is passing on link juice to your money site.
Whether nobody used them or everyone did, the interlinking structure is still flawed and Google easily spots this.
I do know some internet marketers who still use the "link-wheel" approach as a core strategy and who are setting up brand new domain names and ranking very high in a short amount of time. Many of their sites are sticking so long as they continue to promote them. The people I'm thinking of though completely randomize the link structure. In reality they are not wheels as such but networks of Web 2.0 properties which follow a randomized linking pattern.
FYI though, I recently built a closed link wheel exactly according to the "outdated" Lemonarian report and within a week I was ranking on the first page of Google for a very competitive term. Two months later with no other promotion I'm still there.
Just experiment and see what works for you. I for one don't think the link-wheel/network whatever you want to call it method is finished! And neither by the way do those extra 1000 a month visitors who are coming to my site!
My sentiments exactly. It's a problematic concept from the start and a red herring, at best. But I think that for link wheel to lose its influence, there must be a couple or so alternative concepts with equally fancy names.
Right now, "link wheel" looks better than "backlink". It seems sexier.
thanx for your post linus!!!
Here is what I think is a working method:
Prepare spun contents
Sign up with web2 properties/article directories
Submit your content
Wait google to index these pages (You can help the Bot!)
search for your target phrase to see if any of them shows up in SERP
Make the one appearing the SERP your focus hub(s)
Build the other web2 properteis around this focus hub randomly
This is the bit that needs explaining and researching though.
Separate names with a comma.