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envirofile.org unfair tactics

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by rafalov, Apr 13, 2010.

  1. rafalov

    rafalov Newbie

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    Pay per download envirofile.org site maybe is not a scam, but I you want to earn much money, stay away from them.

    They pay $0,25 per download to $0,45 depending of total months download. Most of people are earning about $100 months. Envirofile pays them $0,25 per download and everyone is happy.

    Problem appears when someone whants to earn more, for example 6000 downloads x $0,35 per download = $2100. Envirofile gets less money per every download. It better to have lots of user per $100 than few users per $2000. Tier 4,5,6,7 for $0,31 to $0,45 per download is fiction.

    Here is my story.
    First month I was testing envirofile and earned only about $100. My earings was approved, so I requested a payment and drived more traffic in next month earning above $2500 using the same method as first month.

    They didn't pay me anything...

    Even my approved earings from first month! It's not fair.
    I made too many (?) downloads and they treated me as scamer. But very important fact is that there was natural downloads in accordance with they rules. When they catch scamer it's OK, that's they rules. But what they are doing it's not OK. I'm not sad that they steal my money, I will earn more elsewhere.
     
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  2. HoNeYBiRD

    HoNeYBiRD Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    so it seems envirofile is big fuckin scam from what you wrote
    btw i really don't understand people, if you want to use an uploading site, why use other than sharecash, they're legit, they pay for sure even if you earn $2.000, of course if your leads are not fraud, not try to cheat them, they're using adscendmedia's offers which is one of the best incentive network, i don't think any other site converts better/pays more than SC and you will be happy at the end of the day because you will get your hard earned money (i'm not afiiliated in any way with SC, im just sayin what i know, because i've been there done that and tried several other uploading sites as well)
     
  3. rafalov

    rafalov Newbie

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    Yes, you are right. I'm also testing sharecash. When I drive 50% traffic to sharecash and 50% to envirofile, I can earn a bit more in envirofile, because they pay for example $0,40 for every download in theory (if you have plenty of downloads). In fact that are only virtual money.
     
  4. HoNeYBiRD

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    envirofile have some serious problem with their business model, if they can't pay a top earner (i guess you're one of them with this $2.000)
    i tried monetizeall, netgull, filescashout (game over for them i think) besides sharecash
    i have good experience with monetizeall (in the first two weeks), i made a bit much with them than with SC, but just in the first 2 weeks, then suddenly my earnings dropped, maybe they run out of offers, i dunno...and it was before SC doubled their rates
    netgull doesn't worth to mention and filescashout was a big fuckin joke, i didn't have any downloads with them
     
  5. professional20

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    All i will say is;

    I did a TEST RUN on SC last year around FEB, since then that test run is still paying my phone bill and then some. I haven't worked it since i did the test last year. So if i really wanted to earn a few 1k+ a month on auto with SC i would have kept tweaking it. They always pay me every month!
     
  6. liliput

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    Envirofiles also scammed me and did not paid me, on the other hand sharecash which ofcourse is best ppd site paid me every single time since I joined them a year back and that too, most of the time much before their payment schedule. I remember sharecash site was down for few days during sept and dec 2009 due to ddos attack. Although, they also lost a lot of money during that time but they compensated all users with 10% bonus of their months earnings.
     
  7. drchronic

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    Hey Guys just to let you know Envirofile is a HUGE Scam. Here is what they do- They will let you upload whatever you want and not say a thing or delete your files. Then They will say YOU violated the TOS for uploading COPYRIGHTED matierial and KEEP ALL of your money. This would be fine if they gave you a warning or didnt KEEP the money you made them off the so called copyright material.

    The second thing they are doing is stalling people's payment because they got 'scrubbed' by freelotto and lost 20 grand-which is proboly the real problem hear,but they wont admit it.

    My advice to them is to be FAIR- If you are going to revoke someone's earning because of copyright infrigment-You can not PICK and Choose what copyright laws you want to enforce-just NOT to pay them.

    A porn password is just as illegal as a game patch or movie-plain in simple

    if you dont pay the pornpass guy-Dont pay the guy who uploaded Lil waynes new album.

    if you enforced every violation you would surley be out of biz.

    Envirofile also "slapped" there customers in the face by opeing up a fourm to tell you how to promote ILLEGAL files that violate there own TOS. AFTER they would not pay people for violating there TOS.. HMMMM i wonder what going to happen next pay period... ill tell you right now -They wont pay you because you uploaded copyrighted matierial and violated there TOS....SCAMMERS!! and they Are Arrogant and Rude. Please look into these guys BHW!

    The last thing is there always making threats' Saying they will contact there advertisers and the other affiliate networks and tell the AM's and owners that were driving "bad traffic"and TELL them what kind of files were uploading and what traffic were sending them-so we wont get paid there either. To me thats just bullSh&t and only a Coward would do that! MYOB and Fix your own site Envirofile-Case Closed!

    here is my proof-
    someone inquired about payment heres the response
    Martti wrote:
    If it was a threath then whatever, i've been up over 30 hours.

    Guess why?

    Do you know what is ToS? You are the only one here complaining.


    Bye...

    and another nice reply from there owner
    And you want me to 'delete' all of the files that violate our terms? gamejump would have 0 files. And I would have to delete nearly 400 files.

    It's really great to know that you guys use these same methods with other ppd sites. :D

    A couple emails later and you won't be getting paid from them either.

    That's not a threat. That's business.

    Why are you not allowed to promote this material? Because an advertiser for Nike doesn't want to see their advertisement attached to "TinglyTwatpass.txt"

    passwordhub,

    You will not be getting paid. Same reason as a few others have not been paid. You violated the terms of service.

    If you guys do NOT understand that, I suggest you go to another site that allows a 'less professional' userbase.


    Regards,
    Ryan

    lol at this dude talking like hes using nike and not incentive offers...

    and the "real" problem
    I will touch on this briefly.

    It is professionalism that goes a long way with your business relationship with EnviroFILE.

    When you become belligerent you are losing all the respect EnviroFILE could 'possibly' have for you.

    When respect is lost, a business relationship is very difficult to continue growing.

    Add to this mix the fact that some users KNOW they are using fraudulent and then saying untruthful and misleading things about EnviroFILE on other sites around the internet, you have then 'legally' become an adversary and your account is no longer in 'jeopardy'.

    I will say that in a short while there will be absolutely ZERO worry about whether a file violates some networks ToS. You will soon be able to share 'nearly' all files and still earn a VERY gratuitous sum of money.

    Until that time, when we get revoked $20k, unfortunately our users will see this. A lot of this problem arose because of Free Lotto not issuing us scrub reports for 60 days. So there were people that got paid last month that have since had their account suspended. Why? Because if we didn't, we wouldn't have ANY money to pay our users and NOBODY would have earned any money.

    Regards,
    Ryan

    so you want be to proffesional but you have delayed they payment and it took you weeks to tell us about the free lotto situation. You still have NOT paid many people as of today....Good Luck!
     
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  8. redsasy

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    Playing against the Rules always lead to the bottom! I got paid 2 times from EF so be fair and earn fair!
     
  9. gamejump

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    they are big scammers i am users from jan and they did not paid me a single penny

    and they keep mailing me that they pay soon and at last they say that you braek TOS these things they know when the pay period is comes lol

    they sammed me 1000 $ biggest sucker of the decade
     
  10. harrisonf123

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    why not just make your own download page using the CPA lead widget, you will earn much more money:)
     
  11. drchronic

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    This month Envirus file decided to use the "Blame PayPal" game for people not getting there cash...funny its something every month. Than they have the arrogance to say go and call paypal-"we paid you and did our due diligence" What a joke and these guys have the nerve to take shots at sharec##sh....STAY FAR AWAY FROM ENVIROFILE!!! DONT SAY YOU WERE NOT WARNED!
     
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  12. cobbler

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    Can't thank you guys enough. I just signed up with envirofile a few days ago but haven't sent any traffic there yet. Just signed up to sharecash. If envirofile is this trashy how are they still in business?!