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Email Marketing & Atomic Mail Verifier

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Sagat77, Jul 28, 2017.

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Do you think Mass Email Marketing is still relevant?

  1. It is. I use it everyday and it's one of my main sources of income.

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  2. It is but not like it used to be. I use frequently and get a little extra income from it.

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  3. Somehow. I don't get get little to no income from it but use it to generate traffic.

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  4. It sucks. I prefer to use my time elsewere.

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  1. Sagat77

    Sagat77 Newbie

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    This is a call to everyone who has a sufficient experience in any email verifying software. Your knowledge is precious for everyone!

    Lately I have been experimenting with email grabbing (via SB) to compile niche lists, and then apply a lot of filtering to make them as relevant as possible. I then use Atomic Mail Verifier for the final verification. Then I upload the final list to my email delivery service (like MailChimp) and pray for good results and not getting banned.

    Please have in mind that I use my own static IP when verifying the emails, and that port 25 is open in this IP.

    So far I had a rather good performance and responses(Yay!) BUT I want to go bigger scale and verify a list of 100,000 emails with the Atomic Mail Verifier. Currently I worry that using the Software to check the smtp responses of the emails of such huge list will result in getting my static IP address banned from several servers.

    So my ultimate questions is this

    ***. is it reasonable to worry for getting blacklisted by the servers just for doing bulk smtp email validity requests? And if yes how to avoid that?! ***

    One common solution suggested is to use SOCKS5 proxies instead of my own IP when doing the test. However, as far as I know there are almost no SOCK5 proxy providers that offer the port 25 open that is required for the verification process. And even when someone offers them to you, those proxies get banned within minutes.

    Another bypass is just go for the syntax and domain verification checks, and leave the smtp response verification check behind. However, this is also not a perfect solution as it reduces the quality of the final email list, and may put you in danger when using it for marketing via your email delivery service/provider due to high bounces/errors reports.

    Of course one may argue that's better to get banned by an email marketing service than getting your static IP shitlisted. (the former can change much more easily than the latter). I will argue is that there has to be way to stay safe on both sides ;)

    I will really appreciate your knowledge and feedback on the manner! And promise that once I find the right approach to make a guide on the topic for newbies like me!
     
  2. mammez_zero

    mammez_zero Newbie

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    Yoh! bro i ju
    bro please i really need ur help... hit me back
     
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  3. Tabaza

    Tabaza Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    This is not something easy to achieve as it needs thousands of socks5 proxies to be recycled on monthly basis which most of hosting Companies will not allow.

    note that when you do mass email verification your whole IPs will get blacklisted ASAP and you will get errors and false positive results.

    one good solution which i tried few years back was by creating droplets/cloud VPS which are paid on hourly basis and do some verifications then destroy the cloudvps and re-create a new one and repeat. but most companies has blocked this method also.

    the best solution would be by warming up IPs and getting certificate from returnpath, when your IPs are fully warmed and trusted, you can verify 1 million email using 1 IP.
     
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  4. mammez_zero

    mammez_zero Newbie

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    THanks bruh!!! u got any serial key for AMV?
     
  5. arc323

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    Yes it is very reasonable to worry. I almost got banned from Solid SEO VPS for exactly this. They have port 25 open but when i started running the verifier they thought I was blasting emails and suspended me.

    Ahead Host VPS is the solution for running Atomic Email Verifier. They are very good VPS and you can verify all you want.

    Here's my setup:

    Atomic Email Studio
    SMTP Servers: Amazon SES (x3), Mailgun, SMTP2Go, Sendgrid, Sendpulse.
    Ahead Host Speedy Windows VPS ($15)
    5-10 sending domains that closely match my brand (.biz, .co, .us, etc)

    However, I'm getting ready to switch to this setup in the next few days:

    Paigham Bot Bulletproof Email Server ($250 p/m) - Comes with 8 IPs: https://www.paighambot.com/product/bullet-proof-email-server/
    Atomic Email Studio + Paigham Bot Bulk Mailer

    OP, I do exactly the same thing you're doing. I scrape lists by niche useing SB, verify with Atomic, and send with Atomic. I made a Youtube video about my scrape process which I will link below.

     
  6. eMonetize

    eMonetize Regular Member

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    I've been mailing for almost 17 years.

    I had a custom built verifier developed. It's a windows control panel and uses a custom python script that can be loaded on unlimited cheap VPS's and it then uses the VPS IPs to verify. I also had a domain verifier created, which checks all the domains to see if it is valid and can accept mail. That way if a domain isn't valid, I don't waste anytime verifying any emails from it. I've developed a couple other verifies, but nothing I will talk about in public.

    You may want to consider paying a service to clean your GI emails, as that is where traps are most likely to exist. Which on average is probably around 10% of a list.
     
  7. Sagat77

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    Can you recommend any such service? Also would be interested to see what your custom verifier's do if you can send me a pm

    Very nice tutorial, interested to see your new content! Also would be really interested to see your review of the Paigham Bot Bulletproof Email Server once you experiment well with it. Also a video review of the Ahead Host VPS would be great on your youtube channel if possible. Thanks!