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Email Guru's. Your Advice is Appreciated

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by blahzay, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. blahzay

    blahzay Junior Member

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    Finding a reputable email provider nowadays is like pulling teeth. I know about Aweber, Mailchimp, etc but they have strict policies and require opt-in/double opt-ins. So here is my question(s):

    What email server provider is recommended? I'll just download/buy a good email software that operates off of a SMTP/POP3 and send my own emails. I know worried about blasting 30,000+ emails a day. I'm fine with a well filtered approach (maybe 200 emails per day) just to stay out off of the radar. Maybe a server that allows multiple IP's so not all emails are coming from the same IP.

    I'm new to this so I may be ass backwards in my approach but can you just give me a few pointers on how to effectively going about this? Again, I'm fine with a filtered approach.
     
  2. gold33

    gold33 Registered Member

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    I hate to be the person that nags you for not using the search, but in this case I think have seen quite a few threads asking the same questions. You may be able to find an answer by looking there.
     
  3. blahzay

    blahzay Junior Member

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    I've actually tried bro. Ive tried queries like "email" "bulk email" "email server", etc but the results are not in chronological order. Results from like 2010 are first, then 2012, then 2013, 2011, etc. Im sure times have changed since then so just trying to find the most up to date info as possible.
     
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  5. blahzay

    blahzay Junior Member

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    Bump for one last push at maybe acquiring an actual service
     
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    gergo2007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Check out mandrill, it might be a good solution for you
     
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    I've used the following three with great success and recommend any that suits your needs and budget.
    - Mandrill
    - Sendgrid
    - Mailgun
     
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  8. blahzay

    blahzay Junior Member

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    Ive used mandrill in the past and they ended up stopping my services. Not sure why though. What are the recommended number of emails that you use them for? Also, what service do you know that will clean your email list prior to submitting to mandrill, that way i dont get any bouncebacks or hit any spam traps.
     
  9. eimFlood

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    siftlogic and impressionwise will do list hygiene (cleaning), but that's more for getting rid of bounces and somewhat verifying that a user exists by checking things like fb, twitter, lifestream, etc.

    Anyone that claims to be able to accurately remove spamtraps is either lying to you or lying to themselves. The best they can do is match your data against a list of "known" spamtraps, which is a waste of money if that's the only service they are providing. impressionwise is supposed to be pretty good at removing certain traps IF you give them GI data, but the method they use isn't really too unlike the "match-against-known-traps" method. They just do it with network footprints, and they can't do it for non-GI data.

    I'd stick to mailing aol, yahoo, and gmail, and stay away from GI. If you are mailing scraped or even brokered data, you probably won't last at any ESP with decent deliverability. The reason for this is complaint levels, complaints being every time a user clicks the "this is spam" button. The major ESPs (ConstantContact, MailChimp, etc) have really low complaint thresholds. Your complaint rates will be too high for most ESPs unless you're mailing 1st-party data, which I know you aren't, or you've already mailed your original list for months and have extracted a sublist of low-complaining responders that you could use at the ESPs.

    For AOL, Yahoo, Yahoo-based cables, and GMAIL, you'll only need one IP if you want to send just 200 per day, but that's an absurdly small number if you are mailing untargeted data. Even an eCPM of $100 would mean you're only making $20/day, and that kind of eCPM is atmospherically (read: near impossibly) good even for targeted responder data being sent a high-converting offer.
     
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  10. blahzay

    blahzay Junior Member

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    Thanks a lot. really appreciate that information you provided.
     
  11. skyrapper

    skyrapper Newbie

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    Hi there,

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