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I'm looking into Google Merchant Center and have been thinking; is having all the right tools for Google to have a look a ranking factor?

I've never actually seen anyone ask this, I'm sure I've thought it 100 times - does properly setting things up, even more so with the big G services, help Google determine if we're the better quality website?

There's a hundred things to do after your websites actually live.

I just had a cool idea too, if anyone cares;

Google email us when we get a chance or have started ranking for new keywords right, can we not export that list, ask ChatGPT to determine similar keywords, then selenium our way through throwing those variations at keyword planner?

Export all, combine sheets, score keywords, then you've a source of content for expanding on all of the keywords you've started gaining a chance at ranking for...

I suppose that's whitehat SEO too, two threads in one

Good morning
 
I'm looking into Google Merchant Center and have been thinking; is having all the right tools for Google to have a look a ranking factor?

I've never actually seen anyone ask this, I'm sure I've thought it 100 times - does properly setting things up, even more so with the big G services, help Google determine if we're the better quality website?

There's a hundred things to do after your websites actually live.

I just had a cool idea too, if anyone cares;

Google email us when we get a chance or have started ranking for new keywords right, can we not export that list, ask ChatGPT to determine similar keywords, then selenium our way through throwing those variations at keyword planner?

Export all, combine sheets, score keywords, then you've a source of content for expanding on all of the keywords you've started gaining a chance at ranking for...

I suppose that's whitehat SEO too, two threads in one

Good morning
not a direct ranking factor but it can definitely help google understand the site's legitimacy if everything is properly set up like analytics, merchant center, gtm etc it sends clean signals especially if you have good user feedback (time on site, engagement, conversions), it can boost google’s trust and improve your quality score for ads and maybe even impact organic rankings indirectly are you focusing more on seo or google shopping?
 
not a direct ranking factor but it can definitely help google understand the site's legitimacy if everything is properly set up like analytics, merchant center, gtm etc it sends clean signals especially if you have good user feedback (time on site, engagement, conversions), it can boost google’s trust and improve your quality score for ads and maybe even impact organic rankings indirectly are you focusing more on seo or google shopping?
The fact that you asked if I'm focusing on SEO or Google shopping shows you know what you're talking about

I can set up a lovely organic site; Google Merchant Center just seems like a perfect next step to have your work line up on the paid side as you said

Like you're dead right: "and maybe even indirectly help organic rankings", the goal really is - if I can gauge a strong standing website, and Google can gauge a strong standing platform for services or products, the next step is wait for the traffic and if the traffic engages well, get to advertising right?

Edit: have you imported to both WordPress and GMC mate? What can you tell me about the process?

Is XPath available on the GMC side too?

Edit 2: it actually looks like Google does the import itself... Predefined CSV file structure... No XPath just old-school CSV
 
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The fact that you asked if I'm focusing on SEO or Google shopping shows you know what you're talking about

I can set up a lovely organic site; Google Merchant Center just seems like a perfect next step to have your work line up on the paid side as you said

Like you're dead right: "and maybe even indirectly help organic rankings", the goal really is - if I can gauge a strong standing website, and Google can gauge a strong standing platform for services or products, the next step is wait for the traffic and if the traffic engages well, get to advertising right?

Edit: have you imported to both WordPress and GMC mate? What can you tell me about the process?

Is XPath available on the GMC side too?

Edit 2: it actually looks like Google does the import itself... Predefined CSV file structure... No XPath just old-school CSV
yeah exactly gmc is the next logical step after a solid seo setup you just need to refine the feeds and optimize titles/descriptions for better matching have you tried custom labels to segment your products and optimize campaigns? also google does import files directly but you can clean things up using xpath scripts depending on what you want to push
 
yeah exactly gmc is the next logical step after a solid seo setup you just need to refine the feeds and optimize titles/descriptions for better matching have you tried custom labels to segment your products and optimize campaigns? also google does import files directly but you can clean things up using xpath scripts depending on what you want to push
Yeah bro feeds are what I figured out while editing that message you're bang on

You can upload at campaign level and have your products and data done through those?

I have a Python script I can mess with for creating a CSV like that, and one to fill it, I made it to do towns in county for Ireland then for each town add five services/products/article titles/etc. I can use that for your idea

I seen a bit about XML I need to rewind to, I'd say you've done some cool little projects on the side you @GlobalProxy4g
 
Yeah bro feeds are what I figured out while editing that message you're bang on

You can upload at campaign level and have your products and data done through those?

I have a Python script I can mess with for creating a CSV like that, and one to fill it, I made it to do towns in county for Ireland then for each town add five services/products/article titles/etc. I can use that for your idea

I seen a bit about XML I need to rewind to, I'd say you've done some cool little projects on the side you @GlobalProxy4g
bro if you already have a python script generating a well-structured csv you just need to adapt it to match google merchant center’s import format also have you tried using custom labels? it helps segment products to push them based on performance optimization otherwise xml is fine but google also accepts csv feeds so depending on your setup that might be easier
 
bro if you already have a python script generating a well-structured csv you just need to adapt it to match google merchant center’s import format also have you tried using custom labels?
I'm downstairs having a coffee and a smoke watching Sam from Key commerce explain uploading feeds and then asking you anything I can't get out of the video right now my guy :cool:

I'm a little sh*t for it, poor RoiBox has been getting it the past four years, id watch 3/4 of a video or read 3/4 of something then go off making madness, getting confused, pesting RoiBox and then watching the last 1/4 8-9 months later

See I thought about the CSV side but didn't know anything about the importing side, my job is to provide the lists to add to the feeds I'm just trying to create the right thing to output something I can single out(in Google's structure we know now) to be ready for import

But like, I can do this for myself now

Because of yourself and a YouTube video :)
 
I'm downstairs having a coffee and a smoke watching Sam from Key commerce explain uploading feeds and then asking you anything I can't get out of the video right now my guy :cool:

I'm a little sh*t for it, poor RoiBox has been getting it the past four years, id watch 3/4 of a video or read 3/4 of something then go off making madness, getting confused, pesting RoiBox and then watching the last 1/4 8-9 months later

See I thought about the CSV side but didn't know anything about the importing side, my job is to provide the lists to add to the feeds I'm just trying to create the right thing to output something I can single out(in Google's structure we know now) to be ready for import

But like, I can do this for myself now

Because of yourself and a YouTube video :)
yeah bro if you already have a structured csv the hardest part is done you just need to adjust it to fit google merchant center’s import format and you’re good also have you considered using custom labels? it’s a great way to segment products and push high-performance ones otherwise xml works too but google accepts csv so it might be easier depending on your setup
 
You've defeated my brain, it three times for me to answer it:

I'm creating the CSV with hierarchical structure; you might have:

Clothing Hats Beanie,
Clothing Hats Tophat,
Clothing Masks Balaclava,
Clothing Masks Hockey Mask,
Clothing Scarves PLO Scarf,
Clothing Scarves Multi-Purpose Scarf

You could then do maybe

Makeup Ear Rings Loops,
Makeup Ear Rings Studs,
Makeup Lipstick Red,
etc.

With that structure being crafted off the bat, I'd just need to repurpose my title to lowercase and space to dash function to turn my titles into slugs to concatenate the hierarchical structure to custom labels?

That's two birds with one stone

Have you seen the Google Listings & Ads plugin? Would we not be best off uploading my products to WooCommerce then using the plugins functionality to import ready to GMC?

How do you like them apples my guy, import a theme, WP all export the post type, rejig it to output a file ready to import
 
You've defeated my brain, it three times for me to answer it:

I'm creating the CSV with hierarchical structure; you might have:

Clothing Hats Beanie,
Clothing Hats Tophat,
Clothing Masks Balaclava,
Clothing Masks Hockey Mask,
Clothing Scarves PLO Scarf,
Clothing Scarves Multi-Purpose Scarf

You could then do maybe

Makeup Ear Rings Loops,
Makeup Ear Rings Studs,
Makeup Lipstick Red,
etc.

With that structure being crafted off the bat, I'd just need to repurpose my title to lowercase and space to dash function to turn my titles into slugs to concatenate the hierarchical structure to custom labels?

That's two birds with one stone

Have you seen the Google Listings & Ads plugin? Would we not be best off uploading my products to WooCommerce then using the plugins functionality to import ready to GMC?

How do you like them apples my guy, import a theme, WP all export the post type, rejig it to output a file ready to import
yes bro that makes sense, structuring your categories from the start saves you trouble later when optimizing. Also, using slugs for titles helps with clarity and organizing custom labels. WooCommerce + Google Listings & Ads seems like a solid approach if you want to manage it cleanly and avoid too much manual work. Have you tried exporting with WP All Export to see if it generates a clean file for GMC?
 
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